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      mystery fish...ery

      pond spawn survivor. this guy is about 12" now, he's a metallic silver base with what I think is a poor man's version of a goromo pattern (whereever there is orange it's layered in black (excepting the head). I do have rather hard water, so darker colors come out in my pond.

      Let me know if you can categorize him


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      I think ginrin sumi goromo but it's a pretty unique kawarigoi.

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      He's beautiful! !

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      I like this a lot.
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      It is like a ginrin goromo with goshiki background and maybe some hint of showa. Basically, I don't know what I am talking about.

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      Quote Originally Posted by abuchi123 View Post
      It is like a ginrin goromo with goshiki background and maybe some hint of showa. Basically, I don't know what I am talking about.
      Wow. You took a huge risk naming every variety

      Crappy Goshiki.

      Final answer.
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      This one is totally unique. Sell it to Blackwater for $8000.

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      Quote Originally Posted by rainblood View Post
      Wow. You took a huge risk naming every variety

      Crappy Goshiki.

      Final answer.
      I forgot to mention MATSUKAWABAKE.

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      Quote Originally Posted by rainblood View Post
      Wow. You took a huge risk naming every variety

      Crappy Goshiki.

      Final answer.
      The head beni does say goshiki but why is body beni all dark?

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      Quote Originally Posted by abuchi123 View Post
      The head beni does say goshiki but why is body beni all dark?
      Because it’s crappy
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      Quote Originally Posted by koiclone View Post
      pond spawn survivor. this guy is about 12" now, he's a metallic silver base with what I think is a poor man's version of a goromo pattern (whereever there is orange it's layered in black (excepting the head). I do have rather hard water, so darker colors come out in my pond.

      Let me know if you can categorize him
      I like it, and I am curious what may have been crossed to produce this one. What varieties of koi, females and males, do you think may have been possible parents? Do you have a kujaku? I wonder if this could be a cross between a kujaku and a non-metallic ginrin of some kind.

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      The way I see this one, all the OP wanted was an opinion as to what might had been produced in his pond during a flock spawn and some of you just decided to degrade his thread.

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      Remember this is the "mutt" forum so the OP might not be looking for quite as harsh a critique as the "serious"
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      Quote Originally Posted by rainblood View Post
      Wow. You took a huge risk naming every variety

      Crappy Goshiki.

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      Because it’s crappy
      My bad guys...I meant “pond grade”
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      Quote Originally Posted by Matt24 View Post
      I like it, and I am curious what may have been crossed to produce this one. What varieties of koi, females and males, do you think may have been possible parents? Do you have a kujaku? I wonder if this could be a cross between a kujaku and a non-metallic ginrin of some kind.
      my best guess on parentage is an aka matsuba female with a ginrin karasu (or maybe a really dark ginrin sorogoi? , it's black and sparkly anyway lol) male.

      I also have a couple showa males and I had an asagi female spawn around the same time. I don't really have any other metallic fish in the pond, no kujakus for sure

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      Quote Originally Posted by Orlando View Post
      The way I see this one, all the OP wanted was an opinion as to what might had been produced in his pond during a flock spawn and some of you just decided to degrade his thread.
      thanks Orlando, but I'm a big boy and I've been on the internet long enough to not have any hurt feelings. My guess is rain was trying to be funny and it just missed the mark given the forum is specifically FOR "crappy" fish - happens to me all the time and more times than not he's one of my favorite posters (when he's not taking cheap shots at my fishes). no harm, no foul.

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      Quote Originally Posted by koiclone View Post
      my best guess on parentage is an aka matsuba female with a ginrin karasu (or maybe a really dark ginrin sorogoi? , it's black and sparkly anyway lol) male.
      Sound possible, though I would have guessed one of the parents would have been patterned, rather than both solid color.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Matt24 View Post
      Sound possible, though I would have guessed one of the parents would have been patterned, rather than both solid color.
      my best guess, it's a bit of a crap-shoot

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      Quote Originally Posted by koiclone View Post
      thanks Orlando, but I'm a big boy and I've been on the internet long enough to not have any hurt feelings. My guess is rain was trying to be funny and it just missed the mark given the forum is specifically FOR "crappy" fish - happens to me all the time and more times than not he's one of my favorite posters (when he's not taking cheap shots at my fishes). no harm, no foul.
      Sorry it wasn’t my intent to offend you.
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