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    Thread: Where do wakins come from?

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      Where do wakins come from?

      LOL I feel like a kid asking where babies come from.


      I have never owned any wakin and always wondered where I could get one in town but just never pursued it. I have always had comets, sarassa, shubunkins, and koi. I tried to get rid of all the goldfish because they bred like rabbits. THE DAY I went to catch them to send them packing to a new home I caught them going at it. Anyway long story short. I was taking out the babies today and found a wakin! Is that normal?

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      Quote Originally Posted by madeyna View Post
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      I bet it dug a hole all the way from there to her pond.
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      Quote Originally Posted by madeyna View Post
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      I believe they are originally from China
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      Are you asking about country of origin, or which fish do you breed to get wakins?
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      Just because it has a split tail does not mean it is a wakin
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      Quote Originally Posted by Luck View Post
      Just because it has a split tail does not mean it is a wakin
      Do comets have a recessive gene that will do that?

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      Quote Originally Posted by tracey_shafer View Post
      I bet it dug a hole all the way from there to her pond.
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      I thought wakins came from Tracey Shafer?
      Last edited by Kabuki; 06-20-2009 at 11:59 PM.

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      Its soooo small I am having a hard time getting a pic. It has a tail that looks like a wakins tail but it looks like one solid tail and not split. It may just be so small its hard to see the split. The fish is only a half inch.

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      wakins glen ...in NY State

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      A traditional pond fish bred in Japan since the 1500s, the Wakin looks very similar to a Common Goldfish, but has a split tail. It is believed by many people that the Wakin was the proto-breed originally brought over from China, giving rise to the other Japanese breeds.

      The Japanese use the term "Wakin" to describe all Common goldfish. This causes some confusion in the United States, because the word "Wakin" is used to denote single-tailed Common Goldfish in Japan as well...they use the word to refer to both types of fish. But in America, it specifically refers to the split-tailed fish shown here.

      They look a lot like Fantailed versions of Koi, but have no barbels (whiskers). While Wakin are true goldfish, they can be in the same price ranges as Koi, with adult fish fetching hundreds of dollars. In Japan juveniles can be bought quite cheaply, but they are hard to find in America (and therefore more expensive), and usually have to be mail ordered.


      from http://www.exoticgoldfish.net/breeds-wakin.html

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      Can straight tails (comets, shubs, etc.) have "wakin" offspring or do they come from a comet, shub, etc. & fantail cross?

      I know you get them wakin to wakin but you also get straight tail comets, etc from wakin to wakin.


      She didn't list any fantails as the type of fish she keeps ... they were all straight tail it sounded like.

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      What I read on a goldfish list before is that those that breed mass goldfish haven't been careful as to what might be in the mix. So if a comet looking fish came out of a fantail comet breeding it may be used to produce more comets. Just because they have a fantain doesn't make them wakins. I got some shubunkins a few years ago that had some split tails and in no way looked like wakins.

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      I have some fantailed fish that came from spawnings from my sarassa.

      I have a freind that used to have a pond business and she said at one time you could purchase sarassa fans. But I have never found any information on them.
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      Well I just gave my comets, sarassa and shubunkin to a friend because they were mating again and didn't want to end up with a ton of goldies again but it seems like I didn't avoid it. I was catching a few of the babies this year and noticed one had a split tail so I was curious how this happened.

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      I found some more! This time I was able to get a picture.
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      Quote Originally Posted by eshmikity View Post
      I found some more! This time I was able to get a picture.

      Wow, that's cool .... you gonna keep it?

      I'd love to find something like that in my pond.

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      Quote Originally Posted by eshmikity View Post
      I found some more! This time I was able to get a picture.
      It does look like a wakin tail in that picture, you must have a single tail wakin cull. I sell many of them as goldfish here and they will breed wakin fantails. The orginal wakin tail was from a tail flaw that was carefully cultivated.
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