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      Quote Originally Posted by CBRS2K View Post
      Hi Tarmad,

      Thanks for the post. You have a great looking pond. The impact of adding the anoxic filter seems quite dramatic. I do have one quick question.....

      You state that you have 25 baskets supporting your system. The upper pool supporting the top of your waterfall seems a bit small for 25 baskets. What size baskets did you use? Did you stack them?

      Thanks Again and Kind Regards,

      Steve
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      The area behind the waterfall is 4ft x 4 ft. I can't remember the size of the baskets, but they are ones a member on here were selling.

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      If they're the ones Tracy was selling, they're 9" x 9".


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      Quote Originally Posted by tarmad View Post
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      The area behind the waterfall is 4ft x 4 ft. I can't remember the size of the baskets, but they are ones a member on here were selling.
      Hi Tarmad,

      O.K., great, thanks for the clarification on the details of your setup. Sounds like you have 25 9"x9" baskets setup in a single layer 5x5 pattern within a 4'x4' basin.

      Thanks Again,

      Steve

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      Quote Originally Posted by CBRS2K View Post
      Hi Tarmad,

      O.K., great, thanks for the clarification on the details of your setup. Sounds like you have 25 9"x9" baskets setup in a single layer 5x5 pattern within a 4'x4' basin.

      Thanks Again,

      Steve
      Yes here it what it looked like while I was doing the pots
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      Quote Originally Posted by tarmad View Post
      Yes here it what it looked like while I was doing the pots
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      Thanks, that helps a lot. Based on your set up, it looks like I may be able to get away with a much smaller footprint than I had originally planned. I was planning to build the equivalent of a 4' x 16' run (in an L-shape). I'll probably eliminate the base of the "L" and end up with a 4' x 12' run. This should give me plenty of extra capacity, just in case I decide to push the stocking density of the pond close to, or perhaps slightly above, recommended limits.

      Thanks again and kind regards,

      Steve

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      Are you familiar with the other anoxic setup that was described by Petekoi? I think that he had mentioned about 48 baskets in a 300 gallon tank. Seems to me that he either used some really small baskets, or layered them at least 2 or 3 layers deep in the tank.

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      Pond cleanout… Oct. 2009

      As you can see by the photographs that I have taken, this is my Anoxic filtration system, at pond and filter cleanout time last weekend. I cut down all plants for a better look-see into the filter. Non-obstante of what some people think; it really wasn’t all that dirty. Because of the prefilter that is implemented before the Anoxic filter, it traps most of the smuts and detritus.

      The photo of the lose Kitty Litter on blue background is over twenty years old and is still unrestricting. Because biocenosis baskets are none clogging, pore-water and permeability stay open to chemical and biological mediators indefinitely. This is why only a non-clumping cat litter can be used.

      NOTE: Heretofore, which is over two decades now and only adding Laterite about every five to seven years when exhausted. However, as far as cat litter goes, that become an unvarying constant and may only have to be toped-off when needed.
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      Hi tarmad. in your picture I don't see any gravel over the cat litter. I hope you added it later. If not I'd guess you had a real mess on your hands. Looks nice though.

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      hi am a newbie here! first i wanna say thanks to kevin for the CD....second i wanted to know if the yellow bag of special kitty is okay i cant find the blue or red one at Walmart.... but i did found the yellow bag it said ground clay and fragrance.......is that okay? i check other place tomorrow. i already order the laterite and plant box is be 11 x 11x 7. if someone know where i can get the right kitty litter please point me in the right direction by the way i live in arizona..... thanks MONK
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      Just say NO to fragrance. I think we determined that the traditional (not scoopable) and natural (no fragrance or additives) variety of Cat' Pride (by the oil dri corporation) was also just ground clay.
      http://www.catspride.com/litter_regular_natural.php
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      Preparing for Winter

      How should the anoxic filter be prepared for winter? When the system is shut down, should the anoxic filter be left filled with water to freeze? Or should it be emptyed or partially drained.

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      Adwise- Hi. I leave water in mine over winter. Just clean out in October and trimm off top growth on the plants and sink the bog plants that can't handle freezing temps. I also keep mine covered with a greenhouse cover along with the main pond.

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      i got my plant basket and laterite today... i bought the 55 oz. how many basket can i make out of a 55 oz? i got 3 55 oz. with 15 basket the basket is 11x11x7. one more question. i have a hard time finding cat pride... but i did found some at my grocery store.... is a Kroger brand ...ground cay unscented would that work.... otherwise i have so do some more research...and yes i try superwalmart they dont have it. thanksssssss

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      Dreamer that size basket requires 1 cup of laterite per basket. If the Kroger cat litter is non-clumping baked clay it should be ok. Non-clumping basically means it must not be Sodium bentonite clay and that it has a grain size of aproximately 1/8th inch.

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      Hi all, nice site you have here

      firstly a big thank you to Kevin for sharing his system

      secondly whilst looking for the correct type of cat litter i came across this link below which may be of use to others, although I don't advocate the use of them without checking out what else they may or may not contain.

      I found it useful as far as finding litter that was stable and I am using the sophisticat pink which I pre-rinsed.

      Hope this may be helpful to some, Rich link

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      Hi Rich,

      That is a very useful link, especially for people who may be having trouble finding suitable kitty litter in their countries. Thank you for posting it.

      (Franco, are you getting this?)

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      I agree with Paul and thanks Rich. I think that would work fine in the biocenosis baskets.

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      I got it Paul, now I'll check it

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      am i doing it right? i fill my basket with cat litter put in one cup of laterite in the middle. then cover it with some more cat litter and put small river rock on top... and if i want plant in there do just place it where the laterite it? thanks you.... everyone have a happy weekend.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drEAMER View Post
      am i doing it right? i fill my basket with cat litter put in one cup of laterite in the middle. then cover it with some more cat litter and put small river rock on top... and if i want plant in there do just place it where the laterite it? thanks you.... everyone have a happy weekend.
      Hi all

      From Kevin's cd book..

      "Making up biocenosis-pots for filtration and plants is really quite simple. The supplies you will need are large planting baskets (11" x 11" x 7" or 14" x 14" x 10"), kitty litter 10 (with no additives just plain clay), and Laterite that will be for the substrate. Laterite is a highly weathered remnant of volcanic rock (weathering implies exposure to tropical temperatures, precipitation, and forest derived humic acids over geologic time). Very rich in iron, and Manganese (iron is needed for plants to make chlorophyll). Taking a plant basket as shown in illustration #1 then filling it with Kitty litter, make sure you leave a small impression in the center of the basket. Take about one cup for smaller baskets and one and a half cups for larger baskets of Laterite and pouring it into the center of the basket then mixing the Kitty litter and the Laterite in the center of the basket. Now place only one layer of pond pebbles on top, this is to keep the Kitty litter from floating up after submerging it into the pond. Instead of using pond pebbles, you can also use a black craft screen on top and wire-tie it to the basket. The Laterite will help the bacteria grow in its early stages, once the bacteria becomes established, it will be less dependent upon the iron in the Laterite for growth. The good thing about the planted basket is it will take years before clogging with organic matter (it may take 18 years or longer). You will use the same procedure for the planted biocenosis-baskets, but you will not use the black craft screen on top of this basket only the pond pebbles."

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