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    Thread: Club Member's Greenhouse Koi Pond

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      Club Member's Greenhouse Koi Pond

      A fellow club member in the Upper Midwest Koi Club...Twin Cites MN.., is currently building a greenhouse koi pond. The pond and greenhouse construction part is completed and he is now working on filter system installation. I believe the greenhouse was custom built to fit the perimeter walls and included an automated climate control system. Don't know what his plans are for filtation or what the specs are on the pond.

      In the first picture, the upper section is the koi pond itselft with the lower section being the filter pit. A floor goes over this section, with the greenhouse enclosing both sections...pretty cool. Here's his photo album link that is documenting the project from start to finish. Looks like it will be a pretty nice place to kill some of our long winter days.

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      visions of Japan very nice

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      Quote Originally Posted by cindy View Post
      visions of Japan very nice
      Ron, the club member does make it to Japan on koi buying trips and for work so I'm sure he has brought back a lot of inspirations.
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      Who says we don't keep koi in MN! Maybe we can get Ron to chime in and comment as he makes progress. I can't wait to see this in person!

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      You guys have some awsome ponds up there!

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      Not sure what to say. I did take lots of pictures at many breeders over the last couple years. I started by designing the entire structure in 3D. It was reviewed by several engineers for structure and operation. So far it has gone very well - even the city gave it its blessing and has not known what to say. We have schematics for every wire and conduit. It has plumbing on both floors. Since the structure is complete, I will be starting on the inside this weekend.

      The greenhouse by Nexus is controlled by a Wadsworth EnviroStep computer. It uses sensors inside and a weather station outside. It controls the gas heater, hydronic heater, fans, opening roof, windows and closes or opens them as needed. It measures, wind speed, wind direction, temp, humidity, light intensity and light accumulation. It can close a sun shade and a heat curtain. Burn off humidity or vent. It watches for changes in the weather and will protect itself by closing everything as needed. It resamples and recalculates every couple of minutes and uses a rolling 5 min average to figure out what it should do next - 24 hours a day. Two computer controlled motors can open the roof and windows in any percentage it needs independently. Since it knows the difference between the outside and inside it can learn how much venting is needed. It will even only "crack" the windows to prevent someone from being able to get in.

      It also watches for frost conditions and will close before frost becomes a problem. Its weather system will even heat itself to calculate snow conditions. It can even water the plants as needed by using a sensor. The greenhouse has its own power 200amp, 1" water, gas and sewer. A lift system between floors, 68 degree alternating stairs, motion sensor lights on lower level and more.

      I can control the greenhouse and monitor the values from the web and change them. The security system will allow me to view inside and out, close any part of it, listen inside and talk to someone inside from anywhere. The door will use a fingerprint to gain access. The lower level has the equipment room and quarantine tank. The structure is 600 sf on the first floor and 400 sf on the lower floor.

      I will post more pictures at the website Mike listed in the first post as I make more progress every few days. If someone has any questions you can post them here and I will try to check every few days. Sorry but I got to get done before winter!
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      WOW!!! This sounds like it's going to be one amazing environment!

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      Ron,,,,,, great project!!!!
      What is the volume of the pond and its filtration?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Mikeyzr View Post
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      WOW!!!

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      The Gallery pics are great. I'd like one of those - with air conditioning.
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      The tank is 9,500 gallons - 19L 9W 7.5D - this is the winter facility and secondary pond for the outside formal pond. I only have 12 Koi, 10 here and a Sanke at Igarashi and a Tancho at Teradomi. All are good size.

      I used two Rino BD, 4 lines that will connect to two Cetus sieves. The Cetus will be raised just under the deck in order to keep the water level within a few inches of the greenhouse floor. For now the sieves will be balanced into a 3 Sequence pump, on to 3 side valve 30K Ultima, then to group of multiple UVs, back up to 4 2 returns and/or to a single slit 3 spray bar. The 8 sheet bar can be swapped out with a 8 perforated spray bar to change the water sound or surface movement. Two air pumps on different circuits.

      I used Rino because I have them on the outdoor pond and have been happy with them and it would be nice to have interchangeable parts. I am using the two Cetus an not a SC because I dont want to have that under the deck or take up the space with one on supports at water level, the basement is a full 8 foot to the beams. Same reason I used the Ultima and not the Nexus Easy. I have three other Ultimas and a WLim system lets just say I will stick to the Ultima line and have been very happy with them. The WLim system is for sale to the first person with $500 or best offer.

      Also I used Matts (Sugar Loaf Koi) cinder block skimmer. I big thank you to Matt, great idea and fits well.

      Coating was Polyurea by Koi Acres, I used Polyurea before on the outside pond and love the product. I have never used Koi Acres but know them well. Mike and Taylor did an outstanding job - highly recommended and hands down beats a liner. Taylor is great at spraying.

      Inside will also be the Q-tank which is a 7 500 gal polytank with a 4K ultima, you can see it in the new photos posted at the gallery. Down below I will also have a 500 gal vertical temper tank with an autofill and aerator. This tank will be plumbed into the system to refill after a water change. The temper tank will allow for the water to warm in the winter and be treated or dechlorinated. After the water change the temper tank will refill and shut off.

      The block was done by Buck-crete (Marc Cunningham) - wonderful guy to work with. I try very hard to support business who support the local Koi Club or their local Koi club. We should all ask that of the businesses we use before we make a purchase.

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      Well, if your gonna do it- that's the way!!

      Who did you your Sketchup illustrations? Fantastic design!

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      Thank you - I did all of the drawings myself as I went along with the project.

      It is a great help because everything is in exact proportion and placement in 3D to everything else. I have used the drawings with the City Planning Dept, the Greenhouse company, the concrete guys had a drawing right down to the exact block placement. I even handed part drawing to steel fabrication company and what I got back was a perfect match to with in 1/8 of an inch. When I am all done I may post the sketch up to Google. I would say the drawing alone was 100 hours but I really don't know as I started on it in Feb.

      When done the drawing will document most every part of the project. It was really nice to see first how everything would fit together. For a free program Google Sketchup is amazing. I will post some updated pictures this coming weekend. It has been a lot of fun and amazing to watch it come together from idea and drawing to a real building. Parts of the drawing are hidden such as the valves and pipes for now.

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      New Pictures Were Posted

      Getting close to being done. I am guessing two more weeks.

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      Very cool Ron. You plan on moving all the outdoor koi into the Greenhous every winter or will some stay out? I imagine you will keep some koi there all year round?
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      Ron I was just wondering where you found that staircase. I could make use of something similar.

      Dan

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      Only two companies make them, Vestil and Lapeyre. Vestil is in set sizes and Lapeyre is built to the specific size. Vestil's are cheaper by a few hundred bucks. Lapeyre has one very cool design (see attached) but these are even expensive to ship.

      Lapeyre won't sell to a homeowner or for a residential application. Vestil you can buy through "Global Industrial" on the web and don't care what you do with them.

      If you want to buy an 8 ft and save a lot of money I have an extra one, brand new on Craigslist - Minneapolis. Why I got stuck with two ladders was a bit of a story.

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      Quote Originally Posted by mpageler View Post
      Very cool Ron. You plan on moving all the outdoor koi into the Greenhous every winter or will some stay out? I imagine you will keep some koi there all year round?
      I think I will send them all outside in the summer - just not sure right now. I need to work on the outside pond this spring so they will be inside into a bit of the summer. It is going to be nice to have two ponds.

      Here is a night picture.
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