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    Thread: Severe Dropsy [Urgent]

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      Unhappy Severe Dropsy [Urgent]

      When I came to the pond, one koi was dead and I missed this one with severe dropsy.

      Is there anything I can do to alleviate the fish while I try to find some antibiotics? Or is the dropsy too far gone? The fish is active for the time being.

      I don't have Epsom salt, would Seasalt help?
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      You want pure sea salt without iodine or anti caking agents, solar salt from home improvement store is a good choice if it's pure, epsom salt is not helpful. Try start with 0.3% and up to 0.6% to help the fish expell water. Do you see any injuries? How's your water quality?

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      What is the temperature of your pond?
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      I've started the salt treatment. I don't see any injuries although it seems like there is some deep redness on the right, right next to the dorsal fin.

      Regarding water quality, this pond is spring fed with a volume turnover of about 1×/day so there shouldn't be anything wrong with the water in itself. Water temperature is about 10°C/ 50F.

      I'm trying to get some Esha 2000 to see if it helps as getting access to antibiotics will be difficult in a short notice. Any other suggestion or aspect that I should be considering?

      In the meantime I've changed about 90% of the ponds water.

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      It's suspicious you have two fish sick, though with dropsy it is commonly organ failure and sometimes the fish has run it's course.
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      If there are no large ulcers, then it is probably organ failure. The fishes ability to regulate the internal fluid levels is a two step system, the skin as a membrane protecting the fish from the low salinity external wanting to enter and dilute the relatively high internal salinity 0.9%. and the kidneys expelling any excess water from the system. When the skin is broken by a large ulcer the pond water has a means to overpower the kidneys by dilution of the 0.9% salinity. If there were a large ulcer, then antibiotics and high salt content of the water will be helpful. I have used salinity of up to 0.9% before and saved one of mine, but raising the salinity on a fish that doesn't have a large open ulcer would not be beneficial. Antibiotics do little for kidney failure and may exacerbate the problem as antibiotics seem to hammer the kidneys.
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      Once a koi shows redness outside with dropsy. Its done for. Euthanize
      The redness could be due to secondary bacteria moving in for the kill or its septicemia raising its ugly head.

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