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      Can you judge these showas, please?

      Good morning Koiphen family,

      Can you judge these showa, please?
      Are they females?

      Thank you,

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      Body lines look ok but the skin luster looks flat on all of the pictures, too me these are ones to hope they improve.
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      Thanks Orlando.

      Is the skin luster depending on genetic or the environment?

      Thanks again.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BenDalat View Post
      Thanks Orlando.

      Is the skin luster depending on genetic or the environment?

      Thanks again.
      I would say both but genetics would carry the larger percentage. A koi with great skin could be ruined in a substandard environment.
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      2nd question, are they females?

      Judging by the body shape directly from above,I would say males.

      An angled side ways viewed picture, would be more telling.

      Female fish tend to show a tummy taper, or slimming reduction just before the fishes vent.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Orlando View Post
      I would say both but genetics would carry the larger percentage. A koi with great skin could be ruined in a substandard environment.
      Thank you Orlando

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      Quote Originally Posted by coolwon View Post
      2nd question, are they females?

      Judging by the body shape directly from above,I would say males.

      An angled side ways viewed picture, would be more telling.

      Female fish tend to show a tummy taper, or slimming reduction just before the fishes vent.
      Thank you Coolwon

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      I like the body, they are strong and should grow big, the patterns though they are okay, but again it depends on the price.

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      Quote Originally Posted by fly4koi View Post
      I like the body, they are strong and should grow big, the patterns though they are okay, but again it depends on the price.
      Thanks fly4koi.
      I hope the sumi will appear improve the patterns.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BenDalat View Post
      Thanks fly4koi.
      I hope the sumi will appear improve the patterns.
      Report back after a year, looking forward to it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by fly4koi View Post
      Report back after a year, looking forward to it.
      I sure will.

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      After 4.5 months

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      Nice body, the black is coming in nicely on the right one.

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      Quote Originally Posted by fly4koi View Post
      Nice body, the black is coming in nicely on the right one.
      Thanks fly4koi

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      This koi is changing a lot after 5 months.
      Will it be a female?

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      Looks male to me.

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      Interesting hi patterns on both of these. Rootin' for the sumi to strengthen.

      The sides seem pretty straight. Sometimes a female koi will have a curve early, but often, their profile is fairly indistinguishable from males when they are young. So difficult to say for sure at this point.

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      Quote Originally Posted by kevins2ooo View Post
      Looks male to me.
      Thanks Kevins2ooo. I like male too. I just afraid they damage the females when mating season arrives.
      Do you know how to prevent it?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Matt24 View Post
      Interesting hi patterns on both of these. Rootin' for the sumi to strengthen.

      The sides seem pretty straight. Sometimes a female koi will have a curve early, but often, their profile is fairly indistinguishable from males when they are young. So difficult to say for sure at this point.
      Thanks Matt24. I hope the sumi will get stronger too.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BenDalat View Post
      Thanks Kevins2ooo. I like male too. I just afraid they damage the females when mating season arrives.
      Do you know how to prevent it?
      It's simple separate your females from the the males, if you only have one pond once the sex of the koi has been identified remove the one that's not going to work with your curriculum.
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