Tancho Kohaku?

[New and dumb guy]

Am I accurate if I call this beauty a Tancho Kohaku? He/she is only 5-6", so the beni on the head that I am labeling the tancho might change?

Thanks,
Phil

[cindy]

Sure. My koi with a Tancho spot lost it

[*Ci*]

Technically, a tancho kohaku has only one round spot of beni on the head. Your koi would simply be a two step pattern. Also, in the photo it looks metallic and also possibly doitsu (scaleless), which would make it a Kikusui.

Can you get a better photo of it, brighter and with less glare?

[Orlando]

Ci, that's a maruten kohaku.

[*Ci*]

Ci, that's a maruten kohaku.

Right! I forgot about the term Maruten, however, don’t you think the op pictured a metallic koi?

[kdh]

Definitely going to be a learning experience with this one.

In large pic and at base of tail you can see scales where the light hits it?

[New and dumb guy]

Thanks for the replies! It is scaleless so I guess Doitsu is correct, I forgot to mention that. Sorry I can't get a better picture, already released into the pond and pictures there aren't better quality. I guess my question was more general, is "Tancho" a separate category altogether or just an adjective descriptor you can put on any variety fish?

[Orlando]

Right! I forgot about the term Maruten, however, don’t you think the op pictured a metallic koi?

I think what we are seeing is the glare from the surface reflecting on the koi and being that the beni is hard that might intensify the reflection/glare on the skin.

[rainblood]

Thanks for the replies! It is scaleless so I guess Doitsu is correct, I forgot to mention that. Sorry I can't get a better picture, already released into the pond and pictures there aren't better quality. I guess my question was more general, is "Tancho" a separate category altogether or just an adjective descriptor you can put on any variety fish?

tancho is an all white fish with a red spot on its forehead.
if the fish has any other color, along with the red spot, its referred to as maruten. technically.

so, technically, tancho kohaku and tancho showas dont exist. they should be maruten kohaku or maruten showa...but you know...people call them whatever they want.

[rainblood]

Right! I forgot about the term Maruten, however, don’t you think the op pictured a metallic koi?

I think you're looking at the tiny guanine flecks around the head and maybe some around the dorsal...but no, it doesn't look metallic.