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    Thread: Platinum X (Sanke & Kohaku)

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      Platinum X (Sanke + Kohaku) 2024

      Spawning occured May 3rd

      This was definitely an experiment, which is the part that I really enjoy.

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      Female: Platinum same used in the Yamabuki crossing posted previously.

      Male 1: Sanke
      Male 2: Kohaku (sorry, no picture)
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      Quote Originally Posted by spkennyva View Post
      ... This was definitely an experiment, which is the part that I really enjoy. ...
      Looking forward to the updates from this and appreciate the experimentation Sean. Though not often, I've seen koi that were like a red kohaku, but with a metallic shine. Since the platinum is also ginrin, Maybe you'll get some ginrin kohaku and ginrin sanke.

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      My thought process was that the red is very strong on both males, and the ginrin of the female seems to be dominant, so hoping for some nice ginrin offspring. I know that genetics are far more involved than this, but close enough for hobby purposes. Besides, had I left her in the main pond the eggs would have been wasted, so worst case scenario, I default back to the natural outcome with the added bonus of staying in shape without paying for a gym membership

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      Quick update (sorry no pics to support it). These fry are developing nicely. Very few deformities and decent size. The overwhelming percentage of these are pure white - like the mother. Ginrin is present in many of the fry, but a hands-on inspection hasn’t been done yet. There are a few that are darker, but only maybe 5 percent of the fry, and the darker fry are typically smaller. I know these are young, but initial indication is that the mother's genes were dominant.

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      Quote Originally Posted by spkennyva View Post
      Quick update (sorry no pics to support it). These fry are developing nicely. Very few deformities and decent size. The overwhelming percentage of these are pure white - like the mother. Ginrin is present in many of the fry, but a hands-on inspection hasn’t been done yet. There are a few that are darker, but only maybe 5 percent of the fry, and the darker fry are typically smaller. I know these are young, but initial indication is that the mother's genes were dominant.
      Can't wait to see the results as they begin to develop, I believe Matt is going to be your go to on this one he's been working with metalics for sometime.
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      Glad to hear these are coming along well Sean.

      Quote Originally Posted by spkennyva View Post
      The overwhelming percentage of these are pure white - like the mother.
      Wow, I would have expected lots of gosanke and benigoi in the mix, not overwhelmingly white.

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      Ginrin is present in many of the fry ....
      As expected. Do most of the fry look metallic? Or are there lots of non-metallic too?

      Looking forward to some pictures in due time.

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      Matt, yes, most do look metallic. However, with the darker ones it's difficult to tell. I've had a few of the lighter colored ones in my hand and it's really hard to tell at this point a Sanke& Kohaku were involved. Based upon the 2020 spawn from the same Ogon female, I do expect some changes as they continue to develop. These are growing well and numbers are pretty good. So come next spring I should have a good sense of what the final outcome will be.

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      Here’s a representative sample of what I’m seeing in this group. Gin Rin is strong and color looks good, which will likely turn more yellow.

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      Quote Originally Posted by spkennyva View Post
      ... Gin Rin is strong ...
      Yeah that's a lot of shine.

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      Sean, great work now it's the time to really look for the better quality ones now it's important...
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