Gin Rin Shiro Utsuri

[SamAxe51]

A few weeks back, I came across this koi listed at auction on the Kodama Farms website.



The shiro utsuri is my favorie variety, and considering I don't have any in my pond yet, I'm always on the lookout for any interesting looking ones that become available at a decent price. Since this one was an Omosako bred female, I thought I'd take a shot. However, when I tried to place an opening bid, there was a glitch in the system... and it wouldn't accept bids. I figured they'd eventually become aware of the issue & fix it, but with just over one day to go until the end, I sent them an email. By the time they got back to me, the auction had ended. They, of course, apologized... but then offered to send me an invoice to buy the koi for $100. I had to jump on that!

She just got here today...



I'm very happy with this shiro! Obviously, for the price, I know it's a good deal. Critiques won't change my opinion, so let's hear them.

I know the black will become more pronounced as the koi matures, so I'm a little concerned about that. Will the head pattern develop? Will the body get too dark?

[Orlando]

Congratulations on your purchase.

[coolwon]

Nice even body shape, in the right places just behind the pecs.

Beautiful rounded pectoral fins. A female ?

Clean white head.

They seem to be trending with less Sumi.

Please keep us posted with pics.

Always interesting, to see how they mature

[Longfin Lover]

Following to learn.

[kdh]

So the auction is over and no one bought this koi for a hundred bucks?

Let alone the 1500 the sealer suggested.

[SamAxe51]

So the auction is over and no one bought this koi for a hundred bucks?

Let alone the 1500 the sealer suggested.

There was a problem with that particular auction, where it wasn't accepting bids. You'd try to place a bid, but you'd just get a "There was no bid" message at the top. It was a 4-day auction, so I kept checking back every day, thinking they'd eventually realize the issue & fix it. However, after three days of it still not acceping bids, I decided to send them an email to notify them of the problem. By the time they got back to me, the 4-day auction had ended, and with them never fixing the bidding issue... which caused the koi to go unsold. That's when they offered it to me for the starting bid of $100.

[kdh]

There was a problem with that particular auction, where it wasn't accepting bids. You'd try to place a bid, but you'd just get a "There was no bid" message at the top. It was a 4-day auction, so I kept checking back every day, thinking they'd eventually realize the issue & fix it. However, after three days of it still not acceping bids, I decided to send them an email to notify them of the problem. By the time they got back to me, the 4-day auction had ended, and with them never fixing the bidding issue... which caused the koi to go unsold. That's when they offered it to me for the starting bid of $100.

That does not make any sense to me. If there were no bids accepted from the get go. They would have known that. Realizing they are not selling any fish?. Many people would have brought it to there attention on day 1 as they got the same message as you. ?? Or did it just happen to a few people.

Bottom line. For 100 bucks you got a good deal.

[SamAxe51]

That does not make any sense to me. If there were no bids accepted from the get go. They would have known that. Realizing they are not selling any fish?. Many people would have brought it to there attention on day 1 as they got the same message as you. ?? Or did it just happen to a few people.

Bottom line. For 100 bucks you got a good deal.

Well, I thought that too. I figured others would bring it to their attention, and eventually they'd correct the problem. Three days in, the issue still wasn't fixed, so I contacted them. I think it was just that one auction, amongst dozens that were beig run at the time, so maybe that's why they weren't aware of it. They ended up offering the koi to me at that price, and now I have it. I'm not complaining.

[kdh]

Well, I thought that too. I figured others would bring it to their attention, and eventually they'd correct the problem. Three days in, the issue still wasn't fixed, so I contacted them. I think it was just that one auction, amongst dozens that were beig run at the time, so maybe that's why they weren't aware of it. They ended up offering the koi to me at that price, and now I have it. I'm not complaining.

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[kdh]

Well, I thought that too. I figured others would bring it to their attention, and eventually they'd correct the problem. Three days in, the issue still wasn't fixed, so I contacted them. I think it was just that one auction, amongst dozens that were beig run at the time, so maybe that's why they weren't aware of it. They ended up offering the koi to me at that price, and now I have it. I'm not complaining.

Yep. As long as you like the koi for what you paid for it in this price range. That is all that matters. What it is worth is irrelevant. Hope you get some critics

[Matt24]

What a bargain! I can't predict how this one will fill in, but it looks like lots of promise.

[kdh]

Your koi has bling/sparkly with nice shiroji and clean head and 16 inches. So for 100 bucks not bad.

Your kois head is pinched,narrow and a little long (middle pic of the three pics you have side by side). Weak shoulder and a little weak in the back end. Typical for shiros.

It's 3 years old and only 16 inches. Typical of a gin rin as they generally do not grow large. So little growth potential for the future and the body shows this.

Fins look more like tejima and not motoguro.

The sumi at tail and gill plate are indicaters of potential sumi but probably not in this case. However you never know in the future.

Gin Rin have a hard time with underlying sumi to develope in the future.

I believe your koi is what it is. And that's not bad for the buck.

Breeder kept this koi for 3 years but gave up on it.

The auction started at 100 and would sell for 100. hmm

BUT I COULD BE WRONG.

Bottom line. It doesnt matter what anyone posts in critic. As its your koi and you like it. Same as anything you buy and ask another's opinion. You well get different answers.

ENJOY. Thats what its all about. If you go to the level of showing and showing off. Thats a different story. And seldom satisfied.

[Rich8888ri]

I jad a ginrin Shiro that looked just like this. The black came in eventually but it was to heavy in the back on 1 side, which i think will be the cade on this koi. If you are not looking for symmetry then it wont be a problem for you.

[Primitive]

A 3yr old female omosako bloodline that's only 16" is exceedingly small. If you don't have expectations of it growing 30"+ then you're fine at that price. But I've also seen mistakenly sex the koi and if it's that tiny theres a high chance it's male. You should squeeze for sure, but if you don't care, don't bother.