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    Thread: Dainichi Showa Nisai 54cm

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      Dainichi Showa Nisai 54cm

      Give me your thoughts
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      You might have to be patient,while waiting for the Sumi to fill in,like the area around the peduncle.

      I am for deep solid sumi, and a head V pattern down to a 1/3rd across the mouth.

      TWO STARS according to Dainichi selection?
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      Quote Originally Posted by coolwon View Post
      You might have to be patient,while waiting for the Sumi to fill in,like the area around the peduncle.

      I am for deep solid sumi, and a head V pattern down to a 1/3rd across the mouth.

      TWO STARS according to Dainichi selection?
      They ranked the koi by stars in their auction
      Imagine what the five stars might cost lolz
      Yes praying to sumi god which favoring where I’m at PH of 8.
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      Nice body...praying for good balance of sumi front and back, when finished.

      I think GC Koi down in SoCal has some reasonably priced Dainichi tosai off of their auctions. Quite nice.

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      Quote Originally Posted by OCkoiFan View Post
      They ranked the koi by stars in their auction
      Imagine what the five stars might cost lolz
      Yes praying to sumi god which favoring where I’m at PH of 8.
      So am I assuming in your statement that sumi comes up with a ph of 8.0?

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      Quote Originally Posted by coolwon View Post
      You might have to be patient,while waiting for the Sumi to fill in,like the area around the peduncle.

      I am for deep solid sumi, and a head V pattern down to a 1/3rd across the mouth.

      TWO STARS according to Dainichi selection?
      What do you see to make the statement of waiting for sumi to come up in peduncle? Or anywhere else? Just curious

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      Quote Originally Posted by kdh View Post
      What do you see to make the statement of waiting for sumi to come up in peduncle?
      Or anywhere else? Just curious


      You might have to be patient,while waiting for the sumi to fill in,SOLID like the AREA AROUND the peduncle.



      I see solid sumi around the peduncle.
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      There has to be some indications that the sumi well fill in and create a solid area of sumi for your analysis. Why wouldn't the koi stay just like it is. Or underlying sumi disappear completely.Or some black scales appear mixed with white. Or etc etc. Ive seen it all over the years. So how did you know what this koi well do in the future?

      How much did this koi cost? What about the skin quality? Why or why not well the sumi come together on the beni? Is this koi pretty much finished now? Well the beni hold up over the years if and when the sumi comes together? What well the sumi do at rear dorsal where the sumi scales have white edges?

      Inquiring minds would like to know.
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      I Read 2 stars

      I Read 50,000 YEN

      I Read 2 years old

      He is familiar with what Miya and the partner can deliver.

      Breeder Dainichi, a well known Japanese breeder who has delivered quality goods,should know if this could

      reach what he sees as quality.

      It's already in THE PENNY LANE.

      He bred this fish,his crystal ball told him it has reached it's POTENIAL,NOW BE PATIENT if you own it.

      I personally would not buy it.

      Now you help the inquiring minds.

      I have been taught to focus on the merits of a fish.

      He has to recoup some,to pay the bills.
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      50000 yen is just under 400 bucks. A nisai from Dianichi for under 400. But has potential. ok. I see this was back in November. The dealer made a point in vid to show the sumi by gill plate. The dealer also made his decision to dump this koi for 400 after growing through tosai as Im guessing he thought it had better potential at the time. Perhaps it well turn out better in the future but the profit margin and end result is not worth the effort on his part.
      Probably the poster well show how beautiful it has developed now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by OCkoiFan View Post
      You give the man his thoughts!

      This is a forum, you have seen fish I don't know how many times in your day. #8

      Somebody was impressed with the last dude, that disappeared down his lair after he got the Claret Jug.

      Never to be heard of again.

      You got the Claret jug, now get off my back and get on with it and justify it.

      seems to be that time of the month for some you!

      The gambling man and the out of date medication! With all the gold stars.



      Call it a Sanke, closer to a Sanke than a Showa as far as I am concerned.

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      Quote Originally Posted by coolwon View Post
      You give the man his thoughts!

      This is a forum, you have seen fish I don't know how many times in your day. #8

      Somebody was impressed with the last dude, that disappeared down his lair after he got the Claret Jug.

      Never to be heard of again.

      You got the Claret jug, now get off my back and get on with it and justify it.

      seems to be that time of the month for some you!

      The gambling man and the out of date medication! With all the gold stars.



      Call it a Sanke, closer to a Sanke than a Showa as far as I am concerned.

      Just my opinion
      Dont know why your upset. I asked you some questions and you did not answer them. Thats fine with me. But your last posting was not called for as my last posting had nothing to do with you?

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      Koi are super cheap in Japan and other Asian countries. If you look around on Youtube, Narita Koi Farm often sell pretty reasonably priced koi, way cheaper than here in the States. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-VFzCD5uYM

      They are only expensive in North America...With that said, $400 USD was the starting bid, doesn't mean he paid $400 for the koi.

      Here is an example:
      https://gckoi.com/collections/showa/...a-female-nisai

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      Lolz $400 is cost to ship the koi this size to USA already
      I am happy with the koi
      By the way sumi is very good in my pond and for Southern California tap water
      Just sharing and keep ya all posted
      GCkoi was the handler for this showa
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      I received another nisai showa around late November and 6 weeks later she changed
      I’m gonna said PH as most other people think
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      Exactly...if it was only $400 USD everyone would have gotten one.

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      Quote Originally Posted by OCkoiFan View Post
      Lolz $400 is cost to ship the koi this size to USA already
      I am happy with the koi
      By the way sumi is very good in my pond and for Southern California tap water
      Just sharing and keep ya all posted
      GCkoi was the handler for this showa
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      Soft,soft water for Sumi I think.

      It's got the potential I think, judging by what you see towards the back end
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      Quote Originally Posted by coolwon View Post
      Soft,soft water for Sumi I think.

      It's got the potential I think, judging by what you see towards the back end
      I heard the opposite being true, that hard water is good for sumi development.

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      Quote Originally Posted by kevins2ooo View Post
      I heard the opposite being true, that hard water is good for sumi development.
      You can read this Kevin. You well get a better understanding and viewpoints on the subject. It goes on for a few pages.

      https://www.koi-bito.com/forum/forum...-hardness-myth

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