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    Thread: Shade sail vs. Pergola? Cedar vs. Pressure treated?

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      Shade sail vs. Pergola? Cedar vs. Pressure treated?

      Benefits/Disadvantages for both? Pergola worth much higher cost? Can pressure treated wood hold up near as well as cedar? Are there fish safe water sealers for pressure treated. Also Iím hoping what I choose will reduce the likelihood of herons. Any thoughts? Thanks!

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      Sail is easier to install, move about and tuck away if the weather gets too radical.
      Last time I get a quote for a 12 X 16' pergola in Nor Cal is $12K, did someone mentions lumbers stock increases over 300%. A pergola requires permit & inspection, depend how you build your pond, it may be subject to muni codes. If you have the budget then it is a nice addition to your property, just to protect your fishes from predators is an expensive deterrent. My $.02

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      With today's wood I'd bet the treated wood will age better than the cedar currently being sold. Also treated wood is sold by different treatment levels. Don't buy the lowest level rated for above ground. Our deck boards even with regular staining started rotting at 10 years. Replaced a few but too many at 13 yrs and then replaced deck. Outrageous and bad for the enviroment to not last much longer. In this case a little more preservative used is a positive environmental decision.

      Seal the PT wood and no issues over pond. Look up the toxicity tests on new PT lumber.
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      Great info! Thanks. I think I’ll go with shade sale. I would like the surface area to be more than the pond surface area so birds don’t notice the pond. Thing is, if it’s bigger, when there is a heavy rain the water will pour onto the ground next to the pond. Not good. I hate herons is what I’m trying to say haha.

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      I put a 20x20 vinyl pergola over my pond.
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      Quote Originally Posted by gliebig View Post
      I put a 20x20 vinyl pergola over my pond.
      And you still needed fishing line? Dang!

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      Quote Originally Posted by gliebig View Post
      I put a 20x20 vinyl pergola over my pond.
      I like it! Was this built to fit your area, or was it a kit? Would appreciate more detail if you could share where you got this from.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Wlantry View Post
      And you still needed fishing line? Dang!
      Just a precaution. I may take it down as I haven't seen a heron in quite some time.

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      Quote Originally Posted by two_wheeled View Post
      I like it! Was this built to fit your area, or was it a kit? Would appreciate more detail if you could share where you got this from.
      Semi-custom.
      Think this is the place I got it from...
      https://www.vinyl-pergola-kits.com/

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      Costco.com has great pergola kits

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      A pergola will not deter herons - they do not fly and dive. They land and walk up to the pond. It is the strung fishing line and netting wrapping around the pond that is working in the photo above with the white pergola.
      Having the pergola roofed so that herons cannot see that there is water below will help prevent them from being attracted to your yard.
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      I have a sail above my pond, mainly to try to block out the sun and partially to stop sea eagles etc. Sail has been pretty effective at both duties. Installed in 2014...still going strong today. Rain water mostly bleeds through the sail to the pond below. Leaves and algae growth are the problem. Can blow off the leaves with a jet washer, but the algae growth means removal and cleaning every now and again (twice, or maybe three times since 2014). Last time (March this year) I took it down and put it up myself, so pretty straightforward. Condition when I examined in detail was pretty good. Not the best pic, but you can get an idea...(pic from 2014). Wow...when I look at the pic from 2014.... now in 2021....it's a jungle!!

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