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    Thread: Rescue koi; subsequent issues

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      Rescue koi; subsequent issues

      Hi everyone,

      I rescued a handful of koi this week that were living in an 18" mud hole with no filtration. They've been fed dry cat food and they are FAT. I've got them in clean, filtered water and started Proform-C treatment on day one.

      But I'm not sure what, if anything, needs to be done about their diet. I'm feeding Blue Ridge Growth pellets; is that okay or should I be using something specialized to get their digestive systems back together again and drop some of the fat? So far none of them appear to be eating; either stress or longing for their Meow Mix, I assume.

      Anything else I should be looking for?

      The photos attached: the two big guys (Bekko and Sanke?) are the ones I'm worried about for weight. It's hard to tell in photo but they're chunky. The closeup of the Bekko is a question about his markings: some of the scale pattern on his right side looks funky, maybe discolored a bit. Could that be age, genetic chance, or disease perhaps?

      Thanks for your help!
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      What size tank are you holding them in? Is your filter mature or are you starting from scratch?

      Right now I would not feed at all to maintain optimal water quality (it looks cloudy from the pic).

      Are you able to provide the numbers for:
      ammonia
      pH
      nitrite
      KH

      Editing to add: If you are talking about the scale pattern on the orange fish on the right, that is a doitsu (I'm not sure what your koi keeping knowledge is so I want to clarify I'm not trying to insult you if you already know that ). That is a normal scale pattern for a doitsu koi.

      Thanks
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      250 gallons (retired IBC tank) and a mature fllter. There is a little white cloudiness in the water and I think my pumps are not giving me quite enough flow for the load. I will grab fresh numbers and post them shortly.

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      ammonia: ~ .10, but well under .25
      pH: 7.9
      nitrite: just above 0
      KH: 6 degrees

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      Here's the reply that kdh posted then deleted:

      "rescued means to me that the koi are in distress and need attention. I do not see this with these koi? You have now introduced them into an environment with ammonia and nitrite readings. Now they need to be rescued."

      Nice answer. And you were there to do a water reading of the pit (and I mean that literally) where they were before? I'm surprised to see this from a senior member here. There are a bunch of really smart, really helpful people on this forum... but there are other places to get help that are a whole lot friendlier. So thank you for your words of wisdom, I don't know how I ever got along without your insight.

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      From your readings, my thought is that the water quality (ammonia and nitrite present) is causing stress.

      I would suggest getting an ammonia blocker asap until you can get your filtration sorted out and increased. My preference is Seachem Prime or Seachem Safe b/c it also blocks the harmful nitrites. If you don't have access to those products, go with any ammonia blocker and use salt to .15% (note the decimal) to prevent nitrite poisoning.

      No feeding (they will live off the "fat of the land" for a while lol) and see how they improve.
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