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      Koi Skin Condition - PHOTOS - Need help

      Hey, this is my first post in this forum and I am new to the Koi fish world. I bought a large house that came with a nice 4500 gallon pond. I remodeled the pond and now have my first five small (8-11") Koi fish that I bought from Laguna Pond store in Laguna Beach California. They import their Kois from Japan I was told.

      The fish were doing great and looked healthy, seemed to really enjoy the water being green in the beginning before I plugged in the UV filter. Now where the filter is on for a month and the water is clear, one of the Koi doesn't swim around that much anymore and his once white skin has turned pinkish in color with different unhealthy looking pink tones/patches. The other fish seem fine. My pond service person tested the PH and said it was in the mid 8s which should be fine.

      Can anyone help me and tell me what this condition might be and what I can do? It get's really hot here in the summer, often times in the 100's (36-39 degree celsius), just saying in case this can have something to do with it.

      (Also, could anyone tell me what type Koi this is)

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      Welcome and thanks for joining Koiphen! Do you have tests kits for your water? If not you'll need to test for
      ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, (high range) pH, and KH. Examples:

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      Also, do you have a source of supplemental oxygen in the pond, like an aerated bottom drain or even a waterfall?
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      Quote Originally Posted by graybird View Post
      Also, do you have a source of supplemental oxygen in the pond, like an aerated bottom drain or even a waterfall?
      Hey, yes the set up is very professional with waterfall, brand new large filter etc. The other fish seem to be fine itís just this one that concerns me a bit but maybe I am overreacting. In general theyíve become less friendly since the water is clear now when it was all green they came up to the surface to eat out of my hand now they donít do that anymore.

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      So far only tested for PH I just ordered test kits for the other items you listed.

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      what was the ph? maybe swings in ph. KH might be low. How old is the bio filter? How often are you feeding and amount? Can you shade the pond?

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      Maybe they just need some time to become accustomed to who is friendly and who is foe, now they do not have the curtain of green water to hide behind.

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      Everything is brand new all the equipment I put in a couple months ago. Maybe they really need to get a custom to the water being clear now. Do you know what kind of Koi type this is?

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      Quick update, I did a lot of research and came to the conclusion that this might be from the sun as my pond is 80% of the day exposed to strong sunlight and this might be a little sunburn. I will look into shading the pond better and see if the skin condition improves

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      With everything being new, the filters have not had a chance to cycle and testing for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, KH, high range pH needs to be performed almost daily until everything settles down. Right now, I expect that there is pretty high ammonia which is very irritating, like you would find it if you were to sniff the ammonia bottle. It very well could be that the KH is low, allowing large swings in the pH from early morning to late afternoon, again irritating, and could be preventing the cycling of the filters. As icu2 stated get the test kits.

      The fish variety is a doitsu (scaleless), metallic, two color fish known as a doitsu Kujaku, I think.

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      I'm with Rich on this, your problem is more than likely water related. The sooner you can post test results the sooner your fish will be on the mend..

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      Thanks for the advice. I will pick up a test kit this afternoon contest of water. I will let you know what comes out and maybe you can give me advice on adjustments I want to do

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      Quote Originally Posted by California View Post
      Hey, this is my first post in this forum and I am new to the Koi fish world. I bought a large house that came with a nice 4500 gallon pond. I remodeled the pond and now have my first five small (8-11") Koi fish that I bought from Laguna Pond store in Laguna Beach California. They import their Kois from Japan I was told.

      The fish were doing great and looked healthy, seemed to really enjoy the water being green in the beginning before I plugged in the UV filter. Now where the filter is on for a month and the water is clear, one of the Koi doesn't swim around that much anymore and his once white skin has turned pinkish in color with different unhealthy looking pink tones/patches. The other fish seem fine. My pond service person tested the PH and said it was in the mid 8s which should be fine.

      Can anyone help me and tell me what this condition might be and what I can do? It get's really hot here in the summer, often times in the 100's (36-39 degree celsius), just saying in case this can have something to do with it.

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      Your fish is sick. This is a bacterial issue.
      people like to vehemently defend their purchases and find it incredulous that anything could be better

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      Quote Originally Posted by Russell Peters View Post
      Your fish is sick. This is a bacterial issue.
      And now? Any solutions? These are some photos I found of sunburned koi fish online which to me looks very similar but the sunburn theory was so far not really picked up by anybody in the reply Name:  F028028E-7BCE-4937-920D-8ED57DC95378.jpeg
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      Quote Originally Posted by California View Post
      And now? Any solutions? These are some photos I found of sunburned koi fish online which to me looks very similar but the sunburn theory was so far not really picked up by anybody in the reply Name:  F028028E-7BCE-4937-920D-8ED57DC95378.jpeg
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      OK, you are right, do what you want. You didnít really want an answer did you, I think you just wanted someone to agree with you. How many fish with white skin do you have and how many are sunburnt? The last pic you posted is not sunburn.
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      Also, does Your Koi have a white haze on the red? It looks like it to me. Does sunburn cause a white haze? Asking for a friend
      people like to vehemently defend their purchases and find it incredulous that anything could be better

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      BTW, I have also ever seen the red streaking, that you have in the fins of your Koi, from sunburn Koi. That comes from infections. The only one that has it, in the supposed sunburn pictures, is the dead one and that is from internal hemorrhaging
      people like to vehemently defend their purchases and find it incredulous that anything could be better

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      Quote Originally Posted by Russell Peters View Post
      OK, you are right, do what you want. You didnít really want an answer did you, I think you just wanted someone to agree with you. How many fish with white skin do you have and how many are sunburnt? The last pic you posted is not sunburn.

      I donít wanna argue with anybody youíre just demanding me to accept that your analysis is correct. Iím just trying to rule out the options here obviously. And other answer suggested different things. I donít know what it is thatís what Iím trying to find out here. So if it is a bacterial infection like you say what do I have to do?

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      None of the other fish have this condition.

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      And yes there is a white haze on the red, correct

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