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    Thread: Best approach need all the help. Head tumour.

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      Best approach need all the help. Head tumour.

      Grows the past 2-3 years mainly in the spring.
      Tends to get better every summer but this year itís big!
      Cancer, cyst, infection? What is it?
      Mods please leave in Main section for now as it is not an emergency.
      Need advise from the health committee members as well as others.
      Any advise appreciated.

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      Yes tumor likely I think it just comes and goes by itself
      I have not experienced with my herd yet
      But Iíve seen a few similar threads in ER
      They donít look attractive at all huh
      https://www.koiphen.com/forums/showt...t-a-birth-mark

      You probably seen this
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      I wonder if it's the same thing my $35 asagi has? It gets big then pops
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      Probably carp pox, which often goes into dormancy in warm weather. Cancers, tumors etc, do not wax and wane.

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      Might be early stage of epitheliocystis? A curable bacteria infection, not common and not highly infectious as far as I know. Also sometimes called "cauliflower" lesions.
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      I notice your Kohaku with a little yellowed face and Nguyen’s comment. What are your nitrate levels at? I’ve been doing some reading on high nitrate levels lately and it seems that there is a whole host of damage it can do.

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      Quote Originally Posted by OCkoiFan View Post
      Yes tumor likely I think it just comes and goes by itself
      I have not experienced with my herd yet
      But Iíve seen a few similar threads in ER
      They donít look attractive at all huh
      https://www.koiphen.com/forums/showt...t-a-birth-mark

      You probably seen this
      Thanks buddy. Yes I thought about that thread. I does come and go. July Aug Sept the white on the head looks great. But when it starts to become cold what looks like secondary beni/hi coming out from under the skin appears then later on swells, then it gets messed up. This summer it became a large cyst which I really don't think it's going to clear up this time. Besides I'm sick of it.


      Quote Originally Posted by Spartan View Post
      Probably carp pox, which often goes into dormancy in warm weather. Cancers, tumors etc, do not wax and wane.
      Thanks for the insight. When the weather gets warm it does subside and goes to dormancy which makes me think it's viral in nature however I've never seen carp pox like this. He did use to suffer from carp pox the first couple of years and it usually located on the tail fin. Any koi bacterial infections goes into latency? TB? Chlamydia?

      Quote Originally Posted by Asagibottom View Post
      I notice your Kohaku with a little yellowed face and Nguyenís comment. What are your nitrate levels at? Iíve been doing some reading on high nitrate levels lately and it seems that there is a whole host of damage it can do.
      Nitrates is one of my favourite topic. My nitrate level is zero (and no I did not do a Kevin32).

      Edit: Re yellowing of my kohaku: Yellowing is also on the body. This happens around this time of the year. I've heard kohaku can do this when reabsorbing their eggs.

      *******

      Someone very knowledgeable PM'd me suggesting to take a sample for histopathology at a vet school. I might look into this. Thankyou. I do have a fixative to store body parts . But I've never done anything like this before.

      *******

      Quote Originally Posted by john s View Post
      Might be early stage of epitheliocystis? A curable bacteria infection, not common and not highly infectious as far as I know. Also sometimes called "cauliflower" lesions.
      John
      Oh great my koi has got chlamydia .


      Next step? Any ideas? Thoughts?

      Mods please feel free to move to ER/Koi Health section. And thanks.
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      One of my koi had a similar type looking growth on its side for about last 2 years, but much smaller. I just kept an eye on it, no medications, just normal maintenance on koi pond (filters cleaned regularly, water parameters perfect, clean water, normal water changes, etc.). For last 2 years it never got any bigger, stayed the same, and then about three weeks ago it was gone. I have no clue why it disappeared. The only additives I put in the koi pond is API Pond Stress Coat (during water changes to remove chlorine, chloramines) and then API Stress Zyme about once a month. I do have a UV working 24/7. Only additive that made me think possibly helped - and a big stretch at that - was API Pond Stress Coat which has aloe vera. I have no clue, but was happy to see the growth gone after about 2 years.
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      Quote Originally Posted by OCkoiFan View Post
      Rehome is my next step
      But what am I going to autopsy?

      I am actually 50/50 on whether to net him out. The tumour is looking a little less angry and ugly (or maybe I'm just getting use to it).

      You know I would not rehome anybody. These koi are here to stay. I don't know about the babies though.
      Too bad for this sanke. Lately his conformation has improve. His tail tube has gotten thick, he is not the most runt anymore, and he is as white as ever. He is still a little weird.
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      I don't normally post on health issues since that's a weak area for me but you mentioned netting the koi, in my opinion if your going to catch this koi I would use the bag or sock net method to try and keep that area from receiving any damage and spreading any unwanted bacteria in the water.

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