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    Thread: Fluke M redose in 78-80F

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      Fluke M redose in 78-80F

      Does anybody have experience treating gill flukes in these warm waters? I have seen conflicting information on the internet recommending a redose between 3-7 days in warm waters. In my opinion the flukes start to get killed off 48 hours after the initial treatment (judging from the increased flashing, yawning, head shaking) and they start to calm down.

      Sooo.. When is the ideal time to do the second treatment? Would like to hear from those who had success treatment in warm waters

      Thank you so much in advance!

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      Iirc gill flukes are egg laying and the eggs are what you're trying to kill with a second application. With warmer temps
      the shorter time frame is probably okay because the eggs will hatch quicker. But I think I'd wait till about 5 days
      to re-dose so you're more certain the eggs have hatched but are still not old enough to reproduce.
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      Hello Steve!

      Thanks for your fast reply! I guess if the time from hatching to laying eggs is
      long (like 7-10 days)
      The ideal time to retreat will be 7 days from first dose. By then it is quite likely that all the nasty eggs would have hatched.

      Unfortunately i canít find much concrete information on that hence my paranoia now

      Do you retreat in 5 days during summer? I think your summer is much colder than mine though

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      Like you said, I think our weather is much cooler so I usually wait at least 7 days before treating a second time.
      I think if you waited 7 days you'd still be fine. Here's some info on their life cycle:

      How long do fluke parasites live? An adult fluke’s life span will range from two weeks to one month. However, in cold pond water the eggs, larvae, and the adults are capable of hibernating for up to 6 months.
      https://www.koisale.com/skin-gill-flukes.html
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      If you’re not sure do the treatments 3 times
      4 days aparts work for me with temp range avg 72-76f
      I have 500 gallons tank and only cost me 6 grams each dose
      M.Nguyen


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      Quote Originally Posted by OCkoiFan View Post
      If youíre not sure do the treatments 3 times
      4 days aparts work for me with temp range avg 72-76f
      I have 500 gallons tank and only cost me 6 grams each dose
      I already have enough for 3 treatments on hand. My concern is that if i re-treat 4 days apart the strength from the first dose is still lingering and another dose would be too strong? Maybe i worry too much!

      By the way, Do you usually see any more responses from your Kois after you do the third dose of fluke M? Or they are already calm and happy as can be

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      Thanks for the article Steve!

      Anybody else have experience treating in such high temperatures? Really hope for more success stories before i make a decision!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Yonghui90 View Post
      I already have enough for 3 treatments on hand. My concern is that if i re-treat 4 days apart the strength from the first dose is still lingering and another dose would be too strong? Maybe i worry too much!

      By the way, Do you usually see any more responses from your Kois after you do the third dose of fluke M? Or they are already calm and happy as can be
      I think Fluke M is pretty mild and doesn’t last up to 7 days
      It is the number for eggs to hatch and warmer temperatures then they’ll hatch sooner Like 4-5 days
      I see no problem treating them they still active
      It is just my protocol when I get new koi for the season
      M.Nguyen


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      And if you're really concerned and have a UV just turn it back on. It should inactivate any Fluke-M.
      But after 5 days and a partial water change, I wouldn't be too worried.
      --Steve


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