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    Thread: skimmer sieve integration

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      skimmer sieve integration

      Has anyone ever seen a skimmer with an integrated sieve built right into it? Why has nobody invents this yet. It seems like the natural progression of something to upgrade. Rather then leaves or other heavy debris go into a basket or down a pipe into a large sieve why not have the large debris go right onto a screen? is it just me or does this make a lot of sense?
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      It'll probably clog and/or require as much or more emptying that just a regular skimmer basket
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      it would get just as dirty as a normal sieve that was gravity fed from the skimmer or leaf basket sitting in front of the pump
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      Sieves are tall usually. Building one in to a skimmerbox would mean digging a fairly deep hole and needing to reach pretty far to get the junk out.

      Now a barrel filter could be rigged up that way. Barrel filters are too much $$ for me to play with.

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      By sieve do you mean a device with a parabolic edgewire screen such as in Cetus and UltraSieveIII.....or.....just a mesh acting like a stainer?

      In either case a pond/pool skimmer is smaller than a good sieve.

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      Probably something could be designed for a small scale for a small pond, would be easy to unhook and carry away, pump and all. Not to be used in the winter.


      If this is a big pond with bigger flows, much better to keep separate components. The near pond component begs to have durability from ground movement settling, freeze-thaw and hidden from sight underground.

      The seive needs to be protected under roof, pump and electrical all kept dry out of sight and out of the sun.


      I have a Zakki seive, Zac's design is genius and addresses a number of issues well. It's a sealed and precision unit working in a vacuum. The screen gets washed as it sIuffs off a variety different debris, if the screen gets clogged it falls away, it can even deal with a small amount of air entering it. I keep it in a heated garage well protected with all the valves and pump. A pleasure to work on and work with (no bending over, Yeah). The 3" PVC pipe comes from the rubber drum skimmer system that was used to hold a screen basket. I don't use the basket anymore. It's very flexable, can handle earth movement after installation, freeze and thaw cycles. Has a brown cover flush with the ground, hidden in the landscaping. Air bubbles are not able to get down to the bottom of the drum, so only water and debris goes to the seive. I use my seive to prefilter larger debris, nothing heavy though, only stuff that floats. I have never had a clog in the pipe, (maybe I'm lucky). The only thing I have to keep from freezing is the PVC pipe traveling under ground into the garage. I blow it dry and seal it off with a test plug seasonally.



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      Quote Originally Posted by MCAsan View Post
      By sieve do you mean a device with a parabolic edgewire screen such as in Cetus and UltraSieveIII.....or.....just a mesh acting like a stainer?

      In either case a pond/pool skimmer is smaller than a good sieve.
      yes an edge wire like a cetus/ultrasieve.
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      My skimmers and bottom drains are all plumbed into a Cetus sieve
      It is easy to keep clean

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      Used to have Cetus sieves. Replaced them years ago with UltraSieveIII units. Upgraded the USIII units to 200micron screens. Never had a problem with the USIII units.

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      Quote Originally Posted by bdel01 View Post
      Has anyone ever seen a skimmer with an integrated sieve built right into it? Why has nobody invents this yet. It seems like the natural progression of something to upgrade. Rather then leaves or other heavy debris go into a basket or down a pipe into a large sieve why not have the large debris go right onto a screen? is it just me or does this make a lot of sense?
      great post ... I was thinking the same

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      Size!!! How do you fit a parabolic edgewire screen with dump valve etc.....into something the size of a pond or pool skimmer? Again, taking sieve or simple strainer of mesh. Big difference.

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      i could probably be a 1ft by 1ft by 1ft box, dont need a huge wire. close or smaller than a normal savio skimmer
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      A true Wedgewire sieve screen needs a weir to create the water fall flow over the screen , in order to skim the debris from the water. If the screen was submerged , it would not be able to skim debris from the water. It would also need a way to regulate that water fall like flow over the screen , and that would be difficult in something like a skimmer that is very dependent on pond water level. This would require a very large skimmer body that had a very large reservoir underneath it , to insure that the pump or filter after it always had water supplied to it . With all this , if Your skimmer needs to be cleaned often , just remove the basket and install a real sieve after it . If You do remove the basket , don’t forget to install a fish safe skimmer guard in front of it . Here’s a DIY skimmer guard that I installed on an inwall skimmer
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      Looks good. Why wouldn't a 4inch hole saw work in teh concrete wall?
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      Quote Originally Posted by bdel01 View Post
      Looks good. Why wouldn't a 4inch hole saw work in teh concrete wall?

      ? Sorry , I don’t understand Your question. This is an inwall skimmer .

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