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    Thread: Can someone recommend some good resources for judging koi?

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      Can someone recommend some good resources for judging koi?

      Hi, I apologize if this has been asked before but using the search button for how to judge quality koi is not bringing up the results I'm looking for.

      Can someone help me with some good resources you used to learn how to better judge a koi fish?

      I have several books on Kois and have the Tetra Encyclopedia of Koi, which i find very comprehensive and watched about hundreds of hours of youtube videos but I'm looking for a specific books, sites, or videos that teach you how to better judge a quality koi.

      Thanks for your help

      Ben from Seattle.

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      As far as I know, an x, y, z guide to doing koi eval does not exist. I suspect it is for many reasons, not the least of which is that appraisal is best done in person or at least seeing moving koi.
      My suggestion is to talk to experienced hobbyists and join a good club and look at as many koi as you possibly can.

      Here is a link to the winners of the premier koi show in the world:

      http://zna.jp/eng/show/alljapan/index.html

      Click on the link for each year and at the bottom right of each page is a link to the next page full of more specific classification ie best in size, best in variety etc.
      You'll see commonality in the koi that are winning, take the time to look at each koi and look at the page overall. Do you see things that are true of all of them? That trains your eye to look for the same in person.

      Note conformation. See how almost all have a beautiful torpedo body? Note the balance even in asymmetrical patterns (it's an overall balance) and so forth.
      Hit your eye with as many koi as you can to being to refine your eye. Follow the big auctions so you can begin to understand body, skin, Beni, Sumi.

      Follow the big breeder name auctions; Momotaro, SFF, Dainichi. When you find their auction sites, bookmark them and check back every couple of months so you can all the auctions.
      This thread was posted just days ago:

      https://www.koiphen.com/forums/showt...ciation-Lesson
      Last edited by Marilyn; 10-11-2019 at 01:07 PM. Reason: typo
      Still learning as I go but y'all can call me Marilyn

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      Quote Originally Posted by BenB View Post
      Hi, I apologize if this has been asked before but using the search button for how to judge quality koi is not bringing up the results I'm looking for.
      Can someone help me with some good resources you used to learn how to better judge a koi fish?
      I have several books on Kois and have the Tetra Encyclopedia of Koi, which i find very comprehensive and watched about hundreds of hours of youtube videos but I'm looking for a specific books, sites, or videos that teach you how to better judge a quality koi.
      Thanks for your help
      Ben from Seattle.
      Ben, There are Koi Shows in your area.

      After after judging, and the winners are announced, there is a walk around (usually the next morning) where the judges comment and talk about winners.


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      Definitely trying to make it out to as many shows I can attend within range of course. But I'm also OCD about boning up on my knowledge at home or when there are no events to attend.

      I frequent PAN Intercorp here in Washington and am looking to make it down to Children of the Sun when I get a chance. I prefer to try to gain knowledge on my own first before pestering folks with basic questions. a

      I was the same way with my Fig tree collection.



      As far as some links I've discovered. Figure I'll share these since there are others who also may benefit from them.

      This a quick and good one on judging Kohaku
      http://www.koisa.co.za/koi-judging/j...ng-kohaku.html

      Another good one to test your judging skills on Sanke:
      http://akjaonline.org/articles-libra...t.viewdoc&id=8


      I've picked up a few more books: Great deals on them since they are used.
      https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/08...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
      https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
      https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/15...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

      This is on my wishlist: Kokugyo Volumne 3
      https://www.kodamakoisupply.com/koku...mamoru-kodama/

      at $350 it's a save up for type of book. But in the end it could potentially save you thousands in the future. =)

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      Thanks Marilyn!

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      I was given all three Kodama books as a gift, and they have been very helpful. I admit they are so costly I would not have bought them for myself. I agree with others that seeing as many decent quality koi, and talking to knowledgeable folks, especially judges/dealers/breeders, is most helpful.

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      The starting point for judging is to know the standards for the various varieties. I think the best book for learning these is Koi Appreciation: The First Step by Kate McGill. This will not teach you to be a judge. That requires much time with live koi to develop your eye, but it is a place to start.

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