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    Thread: Pafurazine F Better instructions?

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      Pafurazine F Better instructions?

      I already knew to use the English Instructions because everything is written in Japanese, however, I can't read the English instructions either because the picture is blurry. Main Questions are:

      Grams in volume or weight?
      Grams per gallon?
      Pond temperature range?
      Special instructions such as super aeration?
      How long do I need to keep the treated water in the pond?
      Adverse reactions the fish may have and how to treat them?
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      It looks like ElBagin. Look up Elbagin, that should help.
      Didn't the supplier give instructions with your purchase?
      Still learning as I go but y'all can call me Marilyn

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      Nothing you are looking for is in the English instructions.
      people like to vehemently defend their purchases and find it incredulous that anything could be better

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      Elbagin:

      10 grams for each ton/250 gallons
      salt to .3-.6
      heat between 72-78

      It is photosensitive so will deteriorate more quickly in sunlight. Turn off your UV.
      Initial dose, then water change and redose in 3-4 days.
      It is a therapeutic and will not eradicate deep ulcers. It is part of a treatment but for very ill koi other treatments are often needed.
      It is best with salt so you CAN NOT use it with any of the MG/F mixutues. Period.
      Always increase aeration when using any medication, even salt, so increase it while using Elbagin.

      I've had koi in Elbagin for over a month as a therapeutic. Water changes and filter cleanings should be maintained. Redose to maintain Elbagin level.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn View Post
      It looks like ElBagin. Look up Elbagin, that should help.
      Didn't the supplier give instructions with your purchase?
      No

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      Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn View Post
      Elbagin:

      10 grams for each ton/250 gallons
      salt to .3-.6
      heat between 72-78

      It is photosensitive so will deteriorate more quickly in sunlight. Turn off your UV.
      Initial dose, then water change and redose in 3-4 days.
      It is a therapeutic and will not eradicate deep ulcers. It is part of a treatment but for very ill koi other treatments are often needed.
      It is best with salt so you CAN NOT use it with any of the MG/F mixutues. Period.
      Always increase aeration when using any medication, even salt, so increase it while using Elbagin.

      I've had koi in Elbagin for over a month as a therapeutic. Water changes and filter cleanings should be maintained. Redose to maintain Elbagin level.
      Thank you! I ordered some other stuff too, for flukes or something? I thought the Pafurazine was used to treat fin infections? What else should I get? I'm planning on pulling her today to check her progress so I will get pictures. My new air stones will be in tomorrow I definitely need to wait for them. As for heating the pond, I'll have to get a fish safe pond heater, I'm about 5 too cold for treatment. Thank you Marilyn, I would never have known what to do since no instructions exist in English.

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      Any signs of toxicity to look for? If so, how do I treat?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Hope J View Post
      No
      Why is a supplier selling a product without instructions...
      people like to vehemently defend their purchases and find it incredulous that anything could be better

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      No problem, happy to help.
      The only toxicity I have heard from is if too much is used. It can essentially burn them.

      I would treat topically if you are seeing fin rot. It is just light reddening, the Elbagin may be enough.
      It isn't a cure-all overnight fix. It is quite mild, that is why I don't consider it a go for any overt problems. It is often used in conjunction with antibiotic injections or topical wound treatments.

      Regarding what to have stocked for treatments, there have been loads of threads about what to have in your medicine cabinet etc.

      These are some of the basics:

      -enough dechlorinator to treat all of the water in your ponds/tanks twice over the total gallons
      salt, enough to take all water to tanks/ponds to .6
      water tests (ammonia, KH, nitrite, nitrate, pH)
      thermometer
      heater for qt/hospital tank (ability to maintain mid 70's water)
      sedation (I prefer MS-222, some use clove oil)
      MG/F treatment, enough to complete 3 doses for all tanks/ponds
      Fluke trx (I prefer FlukeM) enough to do 3 treatments for all tanks/pond
      Topical treatments (triple antibiotic cream, iodine)
      qt tips
      Elbagin, enough for 3 doses for all water

      That's all that comes to mind on the fly. Search the forum for other threads.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Russell Peters View Post
      Why is a supplier selling a product without instructions...
      Sea Side Aquatics. I ordered from them a few days ago because my original order with a different company didn't go through for some reason.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn View Post
      No problem, happy to help.
      The only toxicity I have heard from is if too much is used. It can essentially burn them.

      I would treat topically if you are seeing fin rot. It is just light reddening, the Elbagin may be enough.
      It isn't a cure-all overnight fix. It is quite mild, that is why I don't consider it a go for any overt problems. It is often used in conjunction with antibiotic injections or topical wound treatments.

      Regarding what to have stocked for treatments, there have been loads of threads about what to have in your medicine cabinet etc.

      These are some of the basics:

      -enough dechlorinator to treat all of the water in your ponds/tanks twice over the total gallons
      salt, enough to take all water to tanks/ponds to .6
      water tests (ammonia, KH, nitrite, nitrate, pH)
      thermometer
      heater for qt/hospital tank (ability to maintain mid 70's water)
      sedation (I prefer MS-222, some use clove oil)
      MG/F treatment, enough to complete 3 doses for all tanks/ponds
      Fluke trx (I prefer FlukeM) enough to do 3 treatments for all tanks/pond
      Topical treatments (triple antibiotic cream, iodine)
      qt tips
      Elbagin, enough for 3 doses for all water

      That's all that comes to mind on the fly. Search the forum for other threads.
      They look better but I don't really know enough to tell the truth.
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