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    Thread: Ochiba Shigure and Shiro Utsuri

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      Ochiba Shigure and Shiro Utsuri

      Please judge this Koi.


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      You can’t judge from pictures like this.
      people like to vehemently defend their purchases and find it incredulous that anything could be better

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      Quote Originally Posted by Russell Peters View Post
      You can’t judge from pictures like this.
      Sorry, I'm not a pro taking pics.


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      Quote Originally Posted by aldin30 View Post
      Sorry, I'm not a pro taking pics.


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      It is OK, but it is difficult to see the qualities of a fish unless it is in a blue tub and up close. Something like this.
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      people like to vehemently defend their purchases and find it incredulous that anything could be better

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      Quote Originally Posted by Russell Peters View Post
      It is OK, but it is difficult to see the qualities of a fish unless it is in a blue tub and up close. So ethi g like this.
      What kind of scales are these?

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      Sorry. I thought it would copy the picture. That Tancho Shiro is beautiful and it looks like it has the really nice scales but I can't remember what they are called.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Hope J View Post
      What kind of scales are these?
      They are normal scales
      people like to vehemently defend their purchases and find it incredulous that anything could be better

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      Quote Originally Posted by Russell Peters View Post
      It is OK, but it is difficult to see the qualities of a fish unless it is in a blue tub and up close. Something like this.
      Is this tancho Showa for sale RP?

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      Any reason why my ochiba (copper/gray) is turning now on a dark brown and gray koi?
      The beauty of the copper is gone now.


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      That's what they tend to do, it's normal to get darker.

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      Quote Originally Posted by aldin30 View Post
      Any reason why my ochiba (copper/gray) is turning now on a dark brown and gray koi?
      The beauty of the copper is gone now.


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      My Ochiba looks nicest during the cooler months. Right now in the summer it's quite dark and ugly.

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      Quote Originally Posted by jcardona1 View Post
      My Ochiba looks nicest during the cooler months. Right now in the summer it's quite dark and ugly.

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      This is mine at her best


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      I thought they do tend to get darker in general as they age. I could be wrong.

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      Quote Originally Posted by jcardona1 View Post
      My Ochiba looks nicest during the cooler months. Right now in the summer it's quite dark and ugly.

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      Mine too.


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      Nice ochiba!

      I have its brother:

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      Let me give some comments in comparison to his brother - my dear ochiba:

      Similar confirmation, so I guess that it is a male?

      Your ochiba has better scalation than mine, but mine has better pattern on the head.

      Mine has a much lighter color when it was held indoors over the winter. In the summer in the out-door pond it is much better looking as it turns darker.

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      Quote Originally Posted by SimonW View Post
      Let me give some comments in comparison to his brother - my dear ochiba:

      Similar confirmation, so I guess that it is a male?

      Your ochiba has better scalation than mine, but mine has better pattern on the head.

      Mine has a much lighter color when it was held indoors over the winter. In the summer in the out-door pond it is much better looking as it turns darker.
      It’s a matter of preferences.
      My koi are all year long outside in a 4000 gallon pond. I live in DC.
      I enjoyed the beauty of the copper color of the Ochiba after Summer.


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      Chagoi, Ochibas... tend to get darker in warmer weather. They should be lighter in winter//spring.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Keith N View Post
      Chagoi, Ochibas... tend to get darker in warmer weather. They should be lighter in winter//spring.
      You right with the Ochiba but not quite with Chagoi.
      I have a Chagoi (green tea) that looks the same all year long.


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      From my experience in my pond, Soragoi/Chagoi/Ochiba get very dark in the summer. Fall/winter their colors are much lighter. My Soragoi is a very deep blue-gray this time of year and in the winter it's a pale yellowish-gray color.
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