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    Thread: Bumps on tail, blisters, recurring.

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      Bumps on tail, blisters, recurring.

      So her bumps keep coming back On her tail fin. I have caught her 3 or 4 times over the summer debriefed the. Umps and sores and packed with salt. They keep recurring and only with her. Thoughts for treatment?
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      It looks viral and often the salt will resolve it. That it keeps recurring on this one makes me think you just aren't going to be able to get her past it. I've had that happen. Viral things are hard to eradicate.
      I will say I saw a lot less of this happen the cleaner my pond system was. Think of dirty water like air pollution would be for us. It weakens their immune systems. I am just sharing my own experience. Once we shifted to rdf's with flow through systems, the incidences of this type of viral condition pretty much disappeared.

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      Aren’t going to be able to get her past it? What treatment can I try? Water quality has been very good.

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      Clear water and good test reading do NOT mean good water quality. I can see things in both of your pictures that show that water quality is an issue. The thickness of you water and the amount of debris in the pond are indicators. The amount of water you change and how you add it makes a difference in water quality as well.
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      I have koi with this similiar problem. I used a melafix treatment, I am on day 2 and i just found my smallest koi floating on the top Am i doing something wrong? Any solutions???? Also can I do a dimilin treatment during the 7 day melafix treatment??

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      How long should the salt paste be left on?
      And in terms of thick water? How does that get fixed? There is not significant debris in the pond and I will be doing a water change removing bottom drains and attempting to get most out.

      Does it make sense to salt the pond after treatment?

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      There is no benefit to salting the pond, please don't do it. The contact time for the salt is minimal. By the time you've treated all her areas, it's been on long enough.

      I'm not following you on removing the bottom drains.

      As I mentioned before, some koi have weaker immune systems and thus are more likely to have the viral stuff return. If her particular immune system was stronger, topically treating the areas would have been enough to bring it under control. You've treated a number of times without success. This leads me to conclude that either her immune system is not up to the task, your pond/water are not assisting her in eradicating it or both. It was why I mentioned that when we switched to rdf's on all the systems with a good amount (the last I heard it was around 20%) of flow through daily. For some people, this is not achievable and I understand that.
      You could try switching to either iodine, or a PP paste and topically treat if you think there is any chance it may be bacterial but if it is the virus you were initially treating, they won't be of much more use than the salt was, I'm afraid.
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      The bottom drains is just lifting the lids and trying to get as much debris out as possible on the water change and replacing

      When applying the paste of salt or iodine how long should it be on her?

      Then does it make sense to add salt to the pond up to a certain % to try and help treat?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Gophins View Post
      When applying the paste of salt or iodine how long should it be on her?

      Then does it make sense to add salt to the pond up to a certain % to try and help treat?
      The contact time for the salt is minimal. By the time you've treated all her areas, it's been on long enough.

      There is no benefit to salting the pond, please don't do it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by i<3fishpoop View Post
      I have koi with this similiar problem. I used a melafix treatment, I am on day 2 and i just found my smallest koi floating on the top Am i doing something wrong? Any solutions???? Also can I do a dimilin treatment during the 7 day melafix treatment??
      Melafix is essentially snake oil. Can you please start your own thread so your issues can be explored and addressed?
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      I’m confused about the above post and what is being asked?

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      Here are photos from last week before treating with salt to the areas. Name:  6FFB80C8-7FCA-4711-A5AC-0B73B4C2AB36.jpg
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      Thoughts on treatment?

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      Someone else was asking new questions about their fish and I was encouraging them to start their own thread.

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      I’m confused about the above post and what is being asked?
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      Thanks. What can I try for her tail?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Gophins View Post
      Thanks. What can I try for her tail?
      Dry area and apply iodine. Leave on for 30 seconds,rinse off and return to pond. Looks like bacterial issue starting. But could be viral as mentioned . Since it keeps coming back. I would start with monitor water parameters more closely and more water changes could be required. No salt.
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