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    Thread: Floating mud pond for koi babies

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      Floating mud pond for koi babies

      Recently I had a couple of spawning. I managed to catch few eggs on three pieces of hyacinth I floated in the pond while all the action was going on. After, and before the hyacinth/egg combo get eating, I placed them back into my floating planter; protected. Yesterday I happen to notice quite a few fry swimming about in this planter. How exciting for me!

      I also threw in a couple of clumps of clay mud in that planter. I got clay from the backyard by digging below the soil level.

      Isn't it in Japan they grow koi fast in mud ponds?
      What is it about mud or is it clay that make koi grow fast?
      Is this the same clay as in koi clay?

      I'm going throw in some more clay as much as my floating planter can handle to grow these little ones faster.

      Deep down I've always wanted to own a mud pond
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      I don't know that the clay will make them grow faster. They need good food for that. The minerals in clay can help enhance bone structure and skin quality.

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      Good luck with your new babies. How big is the planter, and is it solid or a net? I guess it's time to start designing a new home for them with some filtration, or you could rig up a basket or netting in the main pond and grow them out there.

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      Where’s your videos of them?

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      They're pretty delicate as new fry... I don't know if I'd be dumping mud in the water dug from the yard only
      because it's hard to tell what all is in that mud. And no, it's not the same as koi clay.

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      It's been so sunny lately I was not sure I can film a video that will be able to show the fry because of glare and how tiny they are. Today morning it was cloudy and rainy so I gave it a try. The size of my mud pond is the biggest size of hula hoop I can find at dollarama $3. The the tarp I use is a landscaping tarp I bought at costco (big roll) just for this reason (so I have plenty). I have two sizes of fry at present 1cm from the first spawn and .5 cm hatched yesterday from a second spawn. About 3 days to hatch from spawning.
      Anybody has any ideas what I can feed them at present? They seem too small to feed them anything that would fit in their mouth. Yesterday I found 2 stiff floaters
      But I guess that's normal.

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      I don’t see any giant mud pond ?
      Maybe amateur breeder kakaka
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      Wow, you've got a lot of them. It's hard to believe those little guys can grow into 3 ft. monsters. Go down to Petsmart and buy some frozen brine shrimp. I melt a cube in warm water and feed it to my aquarium fish with an eye dropper as an occasional treat. They love it and so will yours.

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      Congrats!!! what is your success rate on keep home spawns?

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      Wow, you've got a lot of them. It's hard to believe those little guys can grow into 3 ft. monsters. Go down to Petsmart and buy some frozen brine shrimp. I melt a cube in warm water and feed it to my aquarium fish with an eye dropper as an occasional treat. They love it and so will yours.

      Do not feed that stuff- way too big for new fry. If you go that route, you want frozen newly hatched brine shrimp, which is a different product than what you show. Adult brine are a poor source of nutrition for any fish.

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      KoiRun, you asked what it is about mud ponds that makes them grow quickly. It is the time of the year they are out there, peak growing season, and the amount of bio load to gallons. It is not uncommon to see quite large mud ponds with 30-40 koi.
      Still learning as I go but y'all can call me Marilyn

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      If you can find the smallest grade trout or salmon fry starter feed, that should work well. But even with plants present, your waste load (ammonia, nitrite) will climb quickly and start killing fish in a 3’ diam. tank.
      Mud ponds typically have a large volume of water relative to fish biomass, keeping waste loads low. Also the mud bottom provides habitat for natural food organisms.
      Aquaculture/Aquatic Science https://wkrec.ca.uky.edu/aquaculture

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      You've got lots of babies there. If you are going to try frozen brine shrimp get the Hikari BABY brine shrimp. A cube or 2 per day should be plenty. You can also feed Hikari First Bites. I just wet my fingertip and dip it in in the bag. At this size a bag will last several weeks. After they are a couple of weeks old you can feed decapsulated brine shrimp and Tetra koi Pond flakes (or similar). Good luck!

      I'm now feeding my 2-3" ones a 50% protein 0.6mm sinking and 1.0mm floating pellet.

      At certain ages expect die offs. It seems to happen in all my tanks regardless of water quality.

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      You are all great! Thanks for your helpful input.
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      I always end up with powder in the bottom of my pellet food for the big fish and save it for just your occasion. You could grind up some high pro pellets or flakes also.

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