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    Thread: Matala Biostep 10 vs. Oase 5000

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      Matala Biostep 10 vs. Oase 5000

      Hi,

      Can you share your experiences?

      Amazon reviews for Oase 5000 have more reviews than the Matala.

      The Oase sees to have parallel water flow and foam based. The
      Matala has different stages and minor pass through.

      Curious which is better over all for 500 gallon Koi stocked pond.
      Easier to clean, reliable, etc...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bengalcats888 View Post
      Hi,

      Can you share your experiences?

      Amazon reviews for Oase 5000 have more reviews than the Matala.

      The Oase sees to have parallel water flow and foam based. The
      Matala has different stages and minor pass through.

      Curious which is better over all for 500 gallon Koi stocked pond.
      Easier to clean, reliable, etc...
      I use the matala biostep10 for mechanical filtration only then to a DIY shower. Every 2 or 3 days I clean the matala and it does I pretty good job but builds up little bacteria like the shower provides. One thing about the matala biostep10 is the green and blue media captures nothing really..I might switch mine to all black media since I have another biostep not in use. I think the different coarseness is just a selling point
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      Quote Originally Posted by kevin32 View Post
      I use the matala biostep10 for mechanical filtration only then to a DIY shower. Every 2 or 3 days I clean the matala and it does I pretty good job but builds up little bacteria like the shower provides. One thing about the matala biostep10 is the green and blue media captures nothing really..I might switch mine to all black media since I have another biostep not in use. I think the different coarseness is just a selling point
      Very nice. Do you see a lot of fish waste collecting at the bottom of the biosteps?

      What do you mean the green and blue does not capture anything? I thought they are to house
      the good bacteria, the black course one collects the waste? So in real world, the 4 stages does work well
      as it says? Issue being itís more suited as mechanical or bio filtration but not good at both?

      What bio media do you use for the trickle setup?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bengalcats888 View Post
      Very nice. Do you see a lot of fish waste collecting at the bottom of the biosteps?

      What do you mean the green and blue does not capture anything? I thought they are to house
      the good bacteria, the black course one collects the waste? So in real world, the 4 stages does work well
      as it says? Issue being itís more suited as mechanical or bio filtration but not good at both?

      What bio media do you use for the trickle setup?
      When you clean the Matala every 2-3 days, are you also draining the sediment at bottom
      of the Matala? I understand here you are using the Matala as mechancial pre-filter.
      Is it much better this way than just shower/trickle filter with top layer mechanical media?

      Just put black matala mat on the very top of the shower filter, that is what Iím trying to
      get better understanding.

      Since all the trickle/Baki filters I read online, there is no pre-filter/sediment filter before the
      trickle filter that I know of.

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      My shower is a double stack of 3 bins with feather rock in all bins but the top pair have the grey Matala on top to catch any algae that make it's way there.

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      I used the oases 5000 lots of cleaning smh. Might as well upgrade to oases screenmatic to remove fines and particles

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bengalcats888 View Post
      When you clean the Matala every 2-3 days, are you also draining the sediment at bottom
      of the Matala? I understand here you are using the Matala as mechancial pre-filter.
      Is it much better this way than just shower/trickle filter with top layer mechanical media?

      Just put black matala mat on the very top of the shower filter, that is what I’m trying to
      get better understanding.

      Since all the trickle/Baki filters I read online, there is no pre-filter/sediment filter before the
      trickle filter that I know of.
      Yes and the sediment is the main thing im cleaning..most the waste settles down and out of the filter pads..maybe the course media at first helps with this ido for sure

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      Adding black mating makes no sense to me..over the shower. The biostep10 will do a much better job and I like the water to crash over my feather rock

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      Those filters are overpriced IMO...especially the Biostep. You can make something much more efficient with three HDX totes($7 each) from Home Depot. And then just get a short roll of 3 or 4 types of filtration mats on Amazon.

      This is my DIY shower filter I run on my heated quarantine setup in the garage. Water is delivered to the top tote via submerged pump and then the water is distributed through a spray bar on to the mats. The lower two totes are filled with various types of biological media.

      And in the event of a power outage, it's better for the bio media to stay in a wet/dry environment VS submerged application where the beneficial bacteria could suffocate.
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      I made the same thing out of a rubbermaid rectangular tote and the matala media. Put a shower drain in the bottom with a valve on it and you are set!
      Yes, ever decent shower should have the best mechanical filtration possible before the shower. It is a BIG pain to take a shower apart every week and clean out the crud.
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      Quote Originally Posted by nishikigoi21 View Post
      Those filters are overpriced IMO...especially the Biostep. You can make something much more efficient with three HDX totes($7 each) from Home Depot. And then just get a short roll of 3 or 4 types of filtration mats on Amazon.

      This is my DIY shower filter I run on my heated quarantine setup in the garage. Water is delivered to the top tote via submerged pump and then the water is distributed through a spray bar on to the mats. The lower two totes are filled with various types of biological media.

      And in the event of a power outage, it's better for the bio media to stay in a wet/dry environment VS submerged application where the beneficial bacteria could suffocate.
      Hi,

      Agreed, they are expensive. I’m going to do same setup as yours.
      Are 1/4” holes enough for the spray bar/drip plate/drip through next bin?

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      GloriaL--Does your matala prefilter perform well as a mechanical filter prior to the shower? How many layers and what grade(s) are you using? Thanks!

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      I have a BioSteps 10 on a small QT and I love it. To clarify some of the earlier replies, it doesn't come with the black matala, which is the most coarse. It comes with four layers of the grey matala, which is the most dense and the layer where most of the biological filtration happens. Prior to the grey, the water filters through two layers each of green and blue matala. Waste does filter down and collect on the bottom. When I do a water change, I open the drain on the BioSteps and drain out what I want to then I disconnect the hose from the pump to the filter and use it to hose down the filter pads while propping up the filter so the sludge will drain out. It's easy to clean. When I shut down the QT, I disinfect the filters and then put them in my pond's waterfall so I will have cycled media ready for the next time I need it.

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