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      Use of salt with pp works well, better than pp alone. Ideally increase salt over several days to allow the fish to adjust to it. I have used salt up to 1% levels when battling some parasites.

      i have not used salt for many years now, when I stopped buying new koi from several dealers each year, my problems with koi health quickly went away.

      do not use high salt levels with formalin products, that can present problems, at high salt levels.
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      I want to see residual pink color for an hour or so before deciding the pond water is cleaned up sufficiently. At two or three hours, I reverse with sodium thiosulfate.
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      Hydrogen Peroxide works to reverse PP activity too right?

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      Hydrogen peroxide reverses pp abruptly. If the pp is still purple/pink, and peroxide to reverse is added all at once, “sometimes” a few of the fish go into shock from the abrupt change and die. Reversing first with sodium thiosulfate is much gentler, that is why I do the thiosulfate first, wait overnight, then add peroxide.
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      Quote Originally Posted by CHICHI View Post
      Quit making Life difficult Koi Keepers.

      Clearly this works for Roddy, as does my protocol for me.

      Test the water, and tweak accordingly that which`YOU` feel safe with re implementing ...

      I love Roddy, always have,

      His perspective re PHUN experience, I wholeheartedly endorse xxxxxxx
      Main Pond params philterless for 12 months, only aeration ?

      Time to take the pain re maintenance financially out of the `Hobby` experience.

      Work with Nature as do I, or `manipulate` such when your as confident as Roddy xxxxxxx

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      Quote Originally Posted by CHICHI View Post
      Main Pond params philterless for 12 months, only aeration ?

      Time to take the pain re maintenance financially out of the `Hobby` experience.

      Work with Nature as do I, or `manipulate` such when your as confident as Roddy xxxxxxx

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      I reintroduced the healed Koi Babes back into the main pond yesterday within 3 degrees C temp def , and all is well thus phar.

      Twas amazing to witness these guys remembering their connection that late in the evening

      These have been a pod since 2005. lot`s of life experience re each other...

      Mad Kohaku Hannibal is heading shiro muji, I have never had an issue with personally, and look forward to how this transpires.

      So pleased he has healed over winter in that he is my second most fave Koi.

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      Quote Originally Posted by CHICHI View Post
      I reintroduced the healed Koi Babes back into the main pond yesterday within 3 degrees C temp def , and all is well thus phar.

      Twas amazing to witness these guys remembering their connection that late in the evening

      These have been a pod since 2005. lot`s of life experience re each other...

      Mad Kohaku Hannibal is heading shiro muji, I have never had an issue with personally, and look forward to how this transpires.

      So pleased he has healed over winter in that he is my second most fave Koi.
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      So glad to hear they're doing well. Do you have a video of them getting reacquainted with their friends?

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      Quote Originally Posted by pickerel View Post
      So glad to hear they're doing well. Do you have a video of them getting reacquainted with their friends?
      I think it may be here on her website

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      Thanks Stephen but I don't think it's there yet. I couldn't find it.

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      It sure is beloveds.

      The experiment is over now, in that aesthetically speaking, I loathe green water, simply needed to know how much intervention is `OVERKILL` vs Nature, ie financial expenditure.

      Once the pond is clearer, I will capture video of the Koi Babes.


      The Pump vibration initially was startling, yet within 30 mins they acclimated.

      Koi are fricking awesome re how quickly they adapt to all manner environmental changes.

      I would love to be brave enough to adopt the purple rain vs UV, but am not water metered here in the UK, so can afford to dump as much water as params warrant to date.

      Love you guys xxxxxxx

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      Quote Originally Posted by CHICHI View Post
      It sure is beloveds.

      The experiment is over now, in that aesthetically speaking, I loathe green water, simply needed to know how much intervention is `OVERKILL` vs Nature, ie financial expenditure.

      Once the pond is clearer, I will capture video of the Koi Babes.


      The Pump vibration initially was startling, yet within 30 mins they acclimated.

      Koi are fricking awesome re how quickly they adapt to all manner environmental changes.

      I would love to be brave enough to adopt the purple rain vs UV, but am not water metered here in the UK, so can afford to dump as much water as params warrant to date.

      Love you guys xxxxxxx
      Aeration!

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      Dusk params PH 7.5.

      This morning these were 8.

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      Aeration!
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      Due to a sudden influx of microscopic algae (green water), I have needed to buffer the PH with bicarb bringing this up to 8.

      Aeration @ a total of 110 lpm I have positioned around the pond edges so that the Koi babes are able to settle, rest, sleep un-buffeted by said turbulence.

      I will test the PH/KH again @ dusk.

      DO/PH match each other in that copious `De-Gassing` especially at high temps releases all gases including supersaturated O2.

      Of note also is that at PH 6, a prolific specific bacteria can proliferate so rapidly the DO deprived phish capitulate under said onslaught.


      I am only buffering 1-2 KH here, then trusting `De-Gassing` will release the gases taking the PH down.


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      Quote Originally Posted by CHICHI View Post
      Aeration!

      Just posted this.

      Dusk params PH 7.5.

      This morning these were 8.

      Copied from my Forum.

      Aeration!
      Post by Admin Today at 8:47 pm

      Due to a sudden influx of microscopic algae (green water), I have needed to buffer the PH with bicarb bringing this up to 8.

      Aeration @ a total of 110 lpm I have positioned around the pond edges so that the Koi babes are able to settle, rest, sleep un-buffeted by said turbulence.

      I will test the PH/KH again @ dusk.

      DO/PH match each other in that copious `De-Gassing` especially at high temps releases all gases including supersaturated O2.

      Of note also is that at PH 6, a prolific specific bacteria can proliferate so rapidly the DO deprived phish capitulate under said onslaught.


      I am only buffering 1-2 KH here, then trusting `De-Gassing` will release the gases taking the PH down.


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      The UK GOV latest appeal re the public to quit hammering "freshwater" which is in dire straits.

      We "ALL" demand a daily shower/bath/ 20 plus loo flushes, then further compound this re this hobby beloveds?

      I have dumped water like there was no tomorrow for too long personally.

      Conscience, we all have one must be the guiding force now re solution across the globe.

      Roddy`s PP regimen might actually be a future protocol Phishkeepers will be forced to be brave enough to employ, myself included.

      Love you guys ...

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      Looks like recycling pond water with PP yields water that is high in nitrates. Not all that have run showers or trickle filters have experienced nitrate reduction. How high will the levels get? Plant filter for nitrate reduction?
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      Quote Originally Posted by batman View Post
      Looks like recycling pond water with PP yields water that is high in nitrates. Not all that have run showers or trickle filters have experienced nitrate reduction. How high will the levels get? Plant filter for nitrate reduction?
      I wonder the same. I'm using ro on my pond and my nitrates did get higher over time. I did some water changes and cut feeding until it lowered

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      Quote Originally Posted by batman View Post
      Looks like recycling pond water with PP yields water that is high in nitrates. Not all that have run showers or trickle filters have experienced nitrate reduction. How high will the levels get? Plant filter for nitrate reduction?
      I ran a shower for yrs with zero nitrate beloved, minus PP.

      "Utility" costs are going through the roof, to the point whereby we are forced to make decisions ..

      IE , How much re this hobby is crippling me financially, taking my attention from my friends/family to our detriment etc ?

      Only Roddy can reassure the PP regimen, given 30 yrs of experience, and I trust his honed competence emphatically in this regard.

      Buy an ORP meter prior to would be my advice.

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      Quote Originally Posted by kevin32 View Post
      I wonder the same. I'm using ro on my pond and my nitrates did get higher over time. I did some water changes and cut feeding until it lowered
      Is running "RO" Expensive beloved financially ? tis all you need to know .. period.

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      Hey Roddy - thanks for the update. I've admired your expertise and your previous contributions and involvement here, so it's good to hear from you again. And congrats on the educational pursuits. Learning something new is my greatest joy, so I can imagine how much fun you're having!

      I haven't been able to find an inexpensive source for PP so I've been buying small quantities at $10/lb (!) for use in my 16k gallon pond here in water-starved SoCal. Any suggestions for a source for cheap PP?

      And thanks for all your wisdom!
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      When I had a green sand filter and used a lot of it water conditioning stores had the best price for bulk. Some farm type stores also carry it.

      Do not buy from any source that doesn't state percentage PP. One brand sold widely on Amazon, Pot Perm and Pot Perm Plus is only 60 to 80% PP.
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      Video as promised beloveds!

      Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
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      Very windy, water much clearer though via adding philtration only as yet.

      I will test params tomorrow following a 5 inch water replacement since re-introducing the HEALED Koi.

      Nitrite spiked to 0.25, since clearing 25% of the Alga I would not bat-an-eyelid at, so quit the second feed I had introduced briefly.

      Which brought it back to 0 yesterday.

      I re-introduced feed 2 following the water change, and look forward to how params hold up overnight.


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