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    Thread: What are these mutts?

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      Question What are these mutts?

      Hello, if anyone can tell me what kind of mutts these are, that'd be great. I know they aren't great quality and all that.

      A few have gin rin, a couple have tons of it.
      The one that reminds me of a sparkling dark granite countertop I'm most curious about. Its about 6". Rest are wee fingerlings. One has patchy yellow coloring w/white between. Some are regular finned, others butterfly.

      1st is yellow w/ginrin.
      2nd is just yellow.
      3rd has ginrin, dark top that is white on the bottom, yellow/orange "veil" over it, orangey in the fins.
      4th is white and yellow.
      5th is black with silver and ginrin.
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      As best I can gather from the photos ...

      The one with brown only on the front looks like a ginrin ochiba.

      The bottom one looks like a ginrin metallic chagoi. I have not seen one quite like it. I have seen chagoi that were metallic or that were ginrin, but not both.

      As for the metallic (shiny) yellow ones. Solid yellow is yamabuki ogon. Yellow and white are hariwake.

      What types are the likely parents? It seems like a yamabuki ogon or a hariwake crossing with a chagoi or ochiba could produce young like these, as long as at least one was ginrin, and at least one was longfin.

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      So, these two are matsuba, like most of my mutts end up being. But it's a real dark, muddled orange/copper color, one more vivid than the other. Is that still ki matsuba or something else that I haven't seen listed?

      The other is a matsuba, but is there a name for when the fins are yellow?

      This forum won't let me upload the high quality pics.
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      Kin Kabuto, GinRin Bekko, Orenji Ogon, Yamabuki Ogon, Ki Matsuba, then 3 little ones were added years ago, then a couple a bit after that. Another Bekko, solid black koi and a tri I haven't had IDed, last a Hi Utsuri, I believe.
      The ginrin bekko is the dam of most fry, haven't been able to confirm any others as female, but possible.
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      The first one looks like a gin rin yamabuki ogon. Second, longfin yamabuki ogon. Looks like there is a goldfish in there third. Don't have a clue, and maybe hariwake?


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      Wow, that looks like a picture of my pond and fish!!!


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      The odd granite one.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Just Jessie View Post
      Looks like there is a goldfish in there third.
      You know what, it might be! Well, half goldfish.
      I found and removed this fantail, there is another a bit larger still in there. Then one sarasa goldfish, also pictured, poorly.


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      Im not a fan of longfins...but yours look fabulous in your pond setting
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      Tossed the odd dark guy and the white/yellow koi back into the pond to grow further.

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