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    Thread: Are you looking for cheaper koi food?

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      Quote Originally Posted by koi4u2c View Post
      Hi Russell ..

      Thank you for your imput about your talk with Yoshimichi Sakai.

      I often wonder about how they feel about koi food ingredients.
      Kaytee is pretty good. My koi love it!

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      Just got this from DF&S:

      I do apologize, our website will no be accessible after 02/18/19. However, our Live Aquaria website will remain open and active; which this item (DF&S koi food) is also on there.
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      Quote Originally Posted by koi4u2c View Post
      Ö I guess what I did not like is that corn was the number 2 ingredient and fish meal number 3, and number one being soybean meal. ...
      Yes, checking the ingredients for these two products:
      Mazuri Koi Pond Nuggets https://www.mazuri.com/mazuri/ccrz__...e=&cclcl=en_US
      Mazuri Koi Platinum Nuggets https://www.mazuri.com/mazuri/ccrz__...e=&cclcl=en_US
      Both have dehulled soybean meal, ground corn, and fish meal as the top 3 ingredients in that order. After that, the order of ingredients varies a little. The Platinum has protein not less than 36% versus 33%.

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      I have looked at many Koi foods. Unfortunately they are loaded with GMO ingredients.
      Soy, Corn, and Canola oil are generally GMO. A few years ago they may have been healthy for our Koi. I have looked
      at the ingredients in Health Extension cat food. It is grain free and GMO free. It may be an alternative.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
      I have looked at many Koi foods. Unfortunately they are loaded with GMO ingredients.
      Soy, Corn, and Canola oil are generally GMO. A few years ago they may have been healthy for our Koi. I have looked
      at the ingredients in Health Extension cat food. It is grain free and GMO free. It may be an alternative.
      There is no scientific evidence that GMO food is unsafe to consume, unless the consumer is an insect. It can be argued that GMO crops are potentially bad for the environment. One needs to boycott GMO for the right reason. Feeding koi GMO food will not hurt them

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      What about the Hartz Wardley food. I saw it online and at the local Walmart. Any opinions on that stuff?
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      Quote Originally Posted by two_wheeled View Post
      What about the Hartz Wardley food. I saw it online and at the local Walmart. Any opinions on that stuff?
      I’ve used that stuff to see no growth on my koi and It produces so much waste. I say no to wardley goldfish and koi food.

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      I bought Wardley once, it ruined my water and offered it free online. No one came for it so I tossed it

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      Quote Originally Posted by Nguyen365 View Post
      I’ve used that stuff to see no growth on my koi and It produces so much waste. I say no to wardley goldfish and koi food.
      Someone didn’t believe at first
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      Quote Originally Posted by OCkoiFan View Post
      Someone didnít believe at first
      My koi grows so fast now with drs foster and smith growth and color
      I almost finished 1 10lb bag wardley, ordered a second one from walmart then returned it

      Watch this clip https://youtu.be/RUTpj28m8DA
      Last edited by Nguyen365; 04-29-2019 at 08:59 PM.

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      I also have a big pond (16,000 - 19,000 gallons) and many koi. I have been feeding Purina Game Fish Chow (32%). The local feed store has it so it is very convenient. Koi like it, fish are doing well, and they spawn every year, which is a problem. A 50-lb bag is about $30.

      For my goldfish pond, I do actually feed the Wardley goldfish food from Wal-Mart. Again, the fish like it and spawn every year.

      I want to try some mosquito fish this year to ty to control egg/baby fish population but it is rather difficult to find here in the north.
      Last edited by loubapache; 04-30-2019 at 04:09 PM.

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      Rather than mosquito fish, get 3-6 Golden Orfe. They will eat anything that may happen to hatch. They are SUPER hardy, fun and friendly. You need at least 3 b/c they are a schooling fish. I've had mine for about 6 years and they are great companion fish for koi! If you get mosquito fish....you will have an issue of a million mosquito fish. Trust me! They breed like guppies. lol
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      How big are yours after 6 years Andrea?

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      Around 14-16 inches. I love them. Such happy fish!
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      Quote Originally Posted by koi4u2c View Post
      I don't mean to sound like a tight wad (I am), but I have been trying to figure out what I am going to feed my koi, now that Foster and Smith is closing. I use between 600 and 800 pounds of food (maybe more) a year. I have been feeding Foster and Smith Staple food and Blackwater Max. I would watch for the sales and alternate between the two. Once and a while between sales, I fed Azoo. I usually spent $69-$79 dollars, and sometimes $50 to $59 for azoo, and sometimes they gave a % discount or coupon with additional off and always free shipping.

      Now before you boo me, let me say I have fish in 28,000 gallons of water here. I may have more koi than anyone else here, unless you have a mud pond full. My koi eat about 7 pounds of food in one feeding a day. I am sure they would eat more, but since they are fat and sassy, and I like to eat too, along with all the other critters that live here and I do not want too touch my retirement money or get a second job. (I am 68 years old and work about 50 to 60 hours every 2 weeks), they have to live with that and I need to find another source of food with a reasonable price, without having to resort to farm pond fish food. I do not think that is a healthy option for them.

      It was nice of Blackwater to offer us a discount, but the price of the max was about double of what I have been paying.
      I do realize that shipping is expensive for them. I do not know how Foster and Smith could give free shipping, unless they made up for the difference in volume and shipping on small orders.

      That being said, I have come up with several more economical options, but am unsure if any of these would be acceptable for my fish.

      Let me know if you know anything about these foods:

      1.The first is KU Koi Kichi. Sold on Amazon with free shipping. Ingredients look pretty good. Price for 40 pounds is $89.

      2. Kaytee koi food, I think I saw 25 pound for $42 or 100 pounds for $164 with free shipping.

      3. Zeigler do not remember the price

      4. Mazuri Pond Nuggets - I am probably the most reluctant about these ingredients, but price is $34.95 for 20 pounds and I can get it at local Tractor Supply.

      Hopefully some of you are familiar with some of these or can look up the ingredients and give me you opinions.
      I don't know if you have Petco out there but they still carry the Smith and Foster staple that you've been feeding, I just now ordered 40lbs. for 99 bucks but there is a 15 dollar coupon and free shipping...
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      I got 200 lbs of that foster and smith stuff. almost done with my 1/10 20lbs bags.

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      Thank you, ademink, for the suggestion. I believe it is illegal to keep in Michigan.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Russell Peters View Post
      About a year and a half ago I sat down with Yoshimichi Sakai, he was the principle breeder at SFF, and we talked about Koi food. He spoke about fish meal and soybean meal in Koi food and said it was important to have both. He also said it was more important to have a higher percentage of soybean meal over fish meal.
      I saw an older post of yours showing where you were feeding a food you had blended yourself that met this criteria and was very cheap. Do you still feed this? If so, how could I order some? Every penny I can save while still feeding a quality food is a penny I can use elsewhere in the hobby (i.e better filtration, higher quality tosai etc.)

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      Russ is currently on his way back from Japan.
      We do use an aquaculture koi food on site. Give him a bit of time to reply. I’m not sure if he opted for WiFi in transit or if he’s using the time to catch up on sleep.
      Still learning as I go but y'all can call me Marilyn

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      Thanks!

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