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    Thread: AQUA MEDZYME as start up in Spring?

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      AQUA MEDZYME as start up in Spring?

      Has anyone ever used this product? I am looking for a Spring time bacterial treatment for my koi pond.
      Any better recommendations would be much appreciated.
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      I use it every Spring..I know some people call it "snake oil", but after I had my pond for 3 years I had a terrible bout with ulcers etc. I have
      learned a lot in the last 15 years, but I still put in bacteria..gives me peace of mind.


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      Or “koizyme” a liquid form
      Work best if water temperature on the trend going up from the 50s
      Turn off uv for initial doses per instructions
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      I had a terrible ph crash once 4 years ago. It was spring and I overfed my koi (during a party with kids admiring and feeding koi). I guess my filters were less charged with bacteria than ideal. I quickly did a 20% water change, added baking soda and bottled beneficial bacteria. Within 24-36 hours my water recovered.
      Fish recovered much later, however.
      Ever since I have never needed bottled bacteria for the reason that I heat my pond and keep all my filters running during the winter and take it real easy on the feeding during winter/spring.
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      What size of pond do you have and what are you using to heat it? What is your process in the spring? Any additives at all?

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      Heating of my pond is covered in detail here:
      https://www.koiphen.com/forums/showt...ver-setup-2016
      To be honest after 4+ years of koi keeping I have not really settled on any sort of routine much like a teenager trying to figure out what to do in life (getting there though). As far as any additives, I stay away from them mainly to keep things simple. I do feed koi food (saki hikari) with added probiotics. I feel this is keeping my koi healthy while also improving water quality.

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      Quote Originally Posted by KoiRun View Post
      I had a terrible ph crash once 4 years ago. It was spring and I overfed my koi (during a party with kids admiring and feeding koi). I guess my filters were less charged with bacteria than ideal. I quickly did a 20% water change, added baking soda and bottled beneficial bacteria. Within 24-36 hours my water recovered.
      Fish recovered much later, however.
      Ever since I have never needed bottled bacteria for the reason that I heat my pond and keep all my filters running during the winter and take it real easy on the feeding during winter/spring.
      I thought a pH crash was caused by the lack of KH for beneficial bacteria as KH counters the acidic state caused by bio conversion? Am I missing something?
      people like to vehemently defend their purchases and find it incredulous that anything could be better

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      Quote Originally Posted by Russell Peters View Post
      I thought a pH crash was caused by the lack of KH for beneficial bacteria as KH counters the acidic state caused by bio conversion? Am I missing something?
      And hold that thought. My understanding is that that is perfectly correct. However there must be something confusing in my statement(s) which is needing clarification . I’ve been pondering, but please let me know what it is.
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      Quote Originally Posted by KoiRun View Post
      I had a terrible ph crash once 4 years ago. It was spring and I overfed my koi (during a party with kids admiring and feeding koi). I guess my filters were less charged with bacteria than ideal. I quickly did a 20% water change, added baking soda and bottled beneficial bacteria. Within 24-36 hours my water recovered.
      Fish recovered much later, however.
      Ever since I have never needed bottled bacteria for the reason that I heat my pond and keep all my filters running during the winter and take it real easy on the feeding during winter/spring.
      Quote Originally Posted by KoiRun View Post
      And hold that thought. My understanding is that that is perfectly correct. However there must be something confusing in my statement(s) which is needing clarification . I’ve been pondering, but please let me know what it is.
      If you read what you originally posted it first says you had a pH crash and then you follow it by saying, "I guess my filters were less charged with bacteria than ideal," thus implying that the lack of bacteria caused the pH crash.
      people like to vehemently defend their purchases and find it incredulous that anything could be better

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      Ah I see now how it was easily misunderstood. My apologies. What I really wanted to imply is that because it was spring, my filters were not yet robust to handle such a heavy load of feeding. This heavy load of feeding caused my KH to drop, so much so as to cause a ph crash.
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      Yes just add RO water and KH drop even faster for a PH crash hurrah
      M.Nguyen


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      Sorry OP back to topic
      Aqua medzyme is similar to Koizyme
      It is powder form so migh be easier to use and store and some reviews said you will save a bit more compare to liquid koizyme
      I myself had use many koizyme bottles the first 3 years of koi keeping yes because my pond was lack of filtration and overcrowded plus didn’t do regaular or enough waterchange

      Now spring is around the corner a few week ago water temp come up to 60 and now back to 52F
      It is freaking confusing and stressing the koi out thus their immunity goes down

      I had only one kohaku with a little sore near the mouth that’s all
      Keep on monitor the water qualities and the sore and probably a bottle of koizyme might help meantime
      Good luck spring is the worse time imop but enjoy the blooms
      M.Nguyen


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      Keeton ki nitrifier is the best product I've used. Ships cold and for a reason. Bacteria wakes up after certain temp. They could ship it warm but it takes to much $ to make it worth there while. Hence why they ship it cold and you put in fridge after.

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      Quote Originally Posted by AkwaKoi View Post
      Best of luck! I vaguely remember you and Kevin plan to have a duel growout competition, right? Try hard my friend, the jury is still out
      Ha. All in fun of course. We live and learn..mitch tell me how much food you are feeding so I can feed more. Lol j/k mitch

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      I spent 25 minutes on the phone with keeton rep. They went well in depth of how it works etc. Nitrifiers etc that are beyond me caring to talk about tonight lol

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      Take a guesstimate yourself

      Quote Originally Posted by kevin32 View Post
      Ha. All in fun of course. We live and learn..mitch tell me how much food you are feeding so I can feed more. Lol j/k mitch
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      Oh my. ��
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