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      sick fish if someone can help

      It all started with a bruise. After a week the scale the slime coat is no longer there. When I touch the area. It's very rough. Now 10 days after the bruise the scale is protruding out. The brown on the white scale is betadine. any help would be appreciated. Water condition is ok

      ammonio 0
      nitrite 20
      nitrate 20
      1st video is december 11.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbDZ...&frags=pl%2Cwn

      2nd video is december 26. It gotten worst.


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      I thought betadine was for open wounds? I can't see putting it on something that isn't open. I can say that this looks like an extremely sick fish. It won't swim in the bucket and it won't even move when being held out of water. And what do you mean by a Nitrite reading of 20? Confusing.

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      Quote Originally Posted by mjfromga View Post
      I thought betadine was for open wounds? I can't see putting it on something that isn't open. I can say that this looks like an extremely sick fish. It won't swim in the bucket and it won't even move when being held out of water. And what do you mean by a Nitrite reading of 20? Confusing.
      Betadine is something that can be used this way, it does not have to be an open wound. This is an open wound though. I will use it on Koi that have bumped into things and have brushed themselves because it is very likely to have scratched the scales which will allow infection to take hold. The Koi has probably been anesthetised.
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      Quote Originally Posted by retin78 View Post
      It all started with a bruise. After a week the scale the slime coat is no longer there. When I touch the area. It's very rough. Now 10 days after the bruise the scale is protruding out. The brown on the white scale is betadine. any help would be appreciated. Water condition is ok

      ammonio 0
      nitrite 20
      nitrate 20
      1st video is december 11.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbDZ...&frags=pl%2Cwn

      2nd video is december 26. It gotten worst.

      When did you get the Koi and did it already have the ‘bruising?’ The symptoms you describe are very similar to what Costia will do. Have you scraped and scoped? If it is bacterial then it is severe and Oxolinic acid may be the only thing that will work. It is important to find out if it is parasitic or bacterial before you treat.
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      oh forgot to mention. I gave it some antibiotics shot. I had to put it to sleep with clove.

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      It didn't have the bruise when I bought it. And no I didn't scape. Now I'm afraid to scape because the slime coat is completely gone at that area.

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      Here is what it looks like on dec ember 11

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      Quote Originally Posted by Russell Peters View Post
      Betadine is something that can be used this way, it does not have to be an open wound. This is an open wound though. I will use it on Koi that have bumped into things and have brushed themselves because it is very likely to have scratched the scales which will allow infection to take hold. The Koi has probably been anesthetised.
      Ah. Thank you for the information about betadine. I also hadn't considered that the fish was under anesthetic. Makes total sense.

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      It could be a number of parasites that is doing this or bacterial. Scrape and scope.

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      If you have nitrites present, you need to salt to .15% (note the decimal) or use Seachem Safe or Prime to protect from nitrite poisoning
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      so I scape it earlier. And it looks clean. I don't see anything moving.

      but when I was scratching/cleaning off the red mucus/ blood? 2 scale came off. I didn't do it hard at all. It just came off.

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      Here is a update video.

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      Hi retin78, do you have an update for us? How is the Koi now? Have you done a scrape? How are your water parameters?
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