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    Thread: Growth difference

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      Growth difference

      Not much happening in the pond today. When the water gets cold, they just sit on the bottom. But this is an opportunity to observe relative sizes. For instance:

      • I have a 23" male Budo Goromo that I got from Kodama that was 13" in 2004 (14 years ago).
      • I bought a 13" (same length at purchase) female Yamabuki Ogon from Champion Nishikigoi in September 2017 (15 months ago).

      These two were lined up side by side, and they are now the same length! And the young female is of course bulkier. This is certainly no growth rate record or anything, but it surprised me. I knew she had grown well, but with her usually swimming in open water, not right next to anything of known length, I had not realized the extent.
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      Nice. Now get a Karaishigoi and see even more growth from a female.that is great growth and my buddys mukashi went from 13 to 28 inches in 14 months. Lots of food and 12,000 gallons

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      Isn’t a fact that is solid color koi would do better in growth
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      Quote Originally Posted by kevin32 View Post
      Nice. Now get a Karaishigoi and see even more growth from a female.that is great growth and my buddys mukashi went from 13 to 28 inches in 14 months. Lots of food and 12,000 gallons
      Feed that girl with a shovel!

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      Quote Originally Posted by OCkoiFan View Post
      Isnít a fact that is solid color koi would do better in growth
      They sure weren't bred for pattern.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Matt24 View Post
      They sure weren't bred for pattern.
      Perfect scalation and fukurin are just as hard to come by IMHO
      -Rain

      :I CAN'T BRING THIS SHIP INTO TRTUGA ALL BY ME ONESIES, SAVVY?:

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      Quote Originally Posted by Matt24 View Post
      Feed that girl with a shovel!
      I'm sure. I love her bro

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      Matt, they say that sitting at the bottom for months on end (turpor) causes belly ulcers. Is this true? Do you do anything to prevent this?
      Sorry for the off topic. I just realized turpor might not be all bad from my reading and judging by your success in koi keeping these many years.
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      Fortunately, I have not seen a problem with belly ulcers. I do not cover my main pond for warmth or do anything else to prevent ulcers that I don't do in other seasons.

      One factor that might be in my favor is that winter weather is not a consistent long period of cold here. It varies a lot from really cold to pretty mild. So there are usually lots of days when the water gets up into the 45-50 F range which gets the koi to swimming. I wonder if the ulcers are more of a problem further north.

      Since we are near a minimum in the solar activity cycle, maybe this winter will be colder than normal. November was sure looking like it, but December here has not been too bad.

      It may help that the pond bottom is smooth, bare liner, but most of us have that.

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      Interesting take. Thanks Matt.
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