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    Thread: Wiring Pump(Iron Might)

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      Wiring Pump(Iron Might)

      Did I wire the power cord to my pump(115V Waterway Plastics Iron Might) properly?
      White wire to L1, black wire to L2, and green wire to Green screw. I watched several videos on wiring pumps and electrical terminals and decided to attach a round terminal to the 3 wires. I hope I crimped it correctly.

      I'm confused as the "manual"(2 page piece of paper) states that the white goes to 1 & black goes to 2, but I couldn't find a 1 on the pump. Just a L1, 2, 4, and L2.
      And the sticker label on the pump says L1 line, and L2 Grounded line. Should the green wire attach to L2?? The guy at the hardware store mentioned the screws on the side of the pump(by the sticker label) can be grounded as well, which made me even more confused...all I know is if I do it wrong, I'm risking the fish's life & mine...lol

      Is there any way to safely & quickly test whether the external pump will actually turn on or not beforehand? Or will I have to wait until the pond is done & filter is ready?
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      You could slide a rubber grommet down the cable and pinch it under the cover to stop a possible vibration eating into the outer sheath and

      wires and an electrical trip occurring later on.

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      I think youíre good. The worse case if you crossed the black/white then it is will become reverse polarity which only harm/bad for electronic devices.
      You can also call the manufacturer and they can double your work
      Also test it dry see if it spin, wonít hurt it for a few seconds

      So the new motor is 1/8HP
      Might be more power for you there
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      There's got to be real users on here that actually have this pump.
      I contacted a store that runs this pump but was politely told to ask an electrician...

      It was also my first time using a crimping tool but either I'm squeezing too hard or the terminal is just weak because the plastic insulation on every single one cracked. Is this bad? I'm pretty sure I set the terminal in the correct slot.
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      You've got it right. On the crimps they will do that sometimes. As long as none of the exposed metal will touch anything it's okay. The ground would be okay if it touches the frame of the pump since that is what it's connected to anyway.



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      Based on what you have shown for instructions you have it wired correctly. The cracking insulation happens and it isn't a big deal. Just make sure there is no metal or wire touching the cracked insulation and you will be fine.
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      Quote Originally Posted by nishikigoi21 View Post
      There's got to be real users on here that actually have this pump.
      I contacted a store that runs this pump but was politely told to ask an electrician...

      It was also my first time using a crimping tool but either I'm squeezing too hard or the terminal is just weak because the plastic insulation on every single one cracked. Is this bad? I'm pretty sure I set the terminal in the correct slot.

      They are hobbyist /DIY lugs.

      If they aren't, why are they cracking?

      I would not trust them with high amperages.

      The barrel when crimped smothers the wire.

      An uninsulted lug and a professional crimping tool displaces and distorts the wire, it has nowhere to go except into the back of the

      barrel where the barrel crushes the copper wire into the back of the lugs barrel.

      You could not pull it apart.

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      I filled the leaf basket with water and plugged it for a split second and it ran without me getting electrocuted

      Quote Originally Posted by coolwon View Post
      They are hobbyist /DIY lugs.

      If they aren't, why are they cracking?

      I would not trust them with high amperages.

      The barrel when crimped smothers the wire.

      An uninsulted lug and a professional crimping tool displaces and distorts the wire, it has nowhere to go except into the back of the

      barrel where the barrel crushes the copper wire into the back of the lugs barrel.

      You could not pull it apart.

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      Sorry I'm having difficulty understanding what you're saying...
      I'll I can say is that the pump is 1.3amp and the terminals I connected didn't pull apart.

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      Quote Originally Posted by nishikigoi21 View Post
      I filled the leaf basket with water and plugged it for a split second and it ran without me getting electrocuted



      Sorry, I'm having difficulty understanding what you're saying...
      I'll I can say is that the pump is 1.3amp and the terminals I connected didn't pull apart.

      Your repair should not be a problem then.

      Loose fixing/ securing nuts and badly crimped lug connections, can cause hot wire joints and a low voltage which burn out motors.

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      Always inspect and give them a tug test before installation.

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      Quote Originally Posted by nishikigoi21 View Post
      I filled the leaf basket with water and plugged it for a split second and it ran without me getting electrocuted



      Sorry I'm having difficulty understanding what you're saying...
      I'll I can say is that the pump is 1.3amp and the terminals I connected didn't pull apart.


      You could heat up the uninsulated lug and cut copper wire inside with a soldering iron, when up to temperature feed a little rosin core solder to complete the joint.

      Very effective if you have the patience and are a perfectionist.

      Maybe you could slide the insulator up the wire, solder and then slide down to insulate the barrel when it has cooled off.

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      I've asked around but I'm hearing both answers that L1 is black & L1 is white...
      I was told that they will "run" either way(hence my successful test run) but when it's not wired correctly, it will not pump as efficiently.

      Come on there's got to be users on this site that run this pump!
      The manufacture is not being helpful at all either...
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      The "grounded line" is what is normally known as "neutral" and should be white so you have them reversed. It is connected to ground at the electrical panel. With that being said, it should be just as efficient either way. A single phase motor like yours will only run one direction.



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      I had a evolution pump that wired from the factory years ago
      I get shock when plugged another submersible pump in the same outlet.
      So the first thing I check was the receptacle and it was reversed polarity
      Okay so i though the some of the outlets did not wires correctly
      Finally I unplugged the evolution pump and the tester measure correct polarity
      So I check the wires from the evolution pump and the black and white was crossed causing all the trouble
      It was wired in “China”
      So buy a polarity tester if you don’t feel confident enough
      From my understanding is that it is only harmful to the electronic components over time such as dishwasher but there is not much from a cheap pump
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      Quote Originally Posted by OCkoiFan View Post
      I had a evolution pump that wired from the factory years ago
      I get shock when plugged another submersible pump in the same outlet.
      So the first thing I check was the receptacle and it was reversed polarity
      Okay so i though the some of the outlets did not wires correctly
      Finally I unplugged the evolution pump and the tester measure correct polarity
      So I check the wires from the evolution pump and the black and white was crossed causing all the trouble
      It was wired in “China”
      So buy a polarity tester if you don’t feel confident enough
      From my understanding is that it is only harmful to the electronic components over time such as dishwasher but there is not much from a cheap pump
      Hmm. I ran a tse 1/3 hp pump and got shocked by 2 separate sump pumps when draining my settlement tank. Maybe that was my problem idk but it woke me up lol

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      Quote Originally Posted by nishikigoi21 View Post
      I've asked around but I'm hearing both answers that L1 is black & L1 is white...
      I was told that they will "run" either way(hence my successful test run) but when it's not wired correctly, it will not pump as efficiently.

      Come on there's got to be users on this site that run this pump!
      The manufacturer is not being helpful at all either...

      To help if I can.

      Your pump has two windings. The main winding and a start winding with a run capacitor wired in.

      The start winding determines the direction.

      The pump can only run in one direction to pump water.

      The direction is governed by the shape of the impeller.

      The start winding connections are brought out of the internal windings and connected BEHIND the accessible insulated connection board with mains wiring leads to ONLY run

      in the right direction to match impeller direction and pump water.


      We refer to L1 as the live wire, that would be brown.

      L2 Is Neutral, blue. It is a ground wire but developed in the electrical substation.

      The THIRD PIN Our earth or ground wire is Green and yellow is connected to the appliance body which leads to an EARTH BAR in your electrical Distribution

      Board and an earth bar in the electrical substation.


      To ME referring to the two of the wires as GROUND wires is misleading.

      A Chinese mix up in English Or is it made in the US.

      I am not an electrician!

      I am a refrigeration and air conditioning mechanic

      This is the way I interpret your single phase motor wiring diagram.

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