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    Thread: Matt's Showa Spawn 2018

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      Matt, looking good!
      Don't you live in this recent tornado zone? I know OK is a big state, but you've been on my mind.



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      Quote Originally Posted by Koigrl View Post
      Matt, looking good!
      Don't you live in this recent tornado zone? I know OK is a big state, but you've been on my mind.
      Thanks for thought Max. We are doing good here. The tornados have been scattered all around over the last week or so. Rivers are flooding too. We've heard the sirens and gotten in our metal box a couple of times, but that's it. No damage, though some others in the state have not been so fortunate.

      I will see if I have any other little koi photos to post later today.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Matt24 View Post
      Thanks for thought Max. We are doing good here. The tornados have been scattered all around over the last week or so. Rivers are flooding too. We've heard the sirens and gotten in our metal box a couple of times, but that's it. No damage, though some others in the state have not been so fortunate.

      I will see if I have any other little koi photos to post later today.
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      They are looking good Matt but this one caught my eyeName:  showa fry 5-25-2019 m-1.jpg
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      Thanks Orlando. I am hopeful that the colors will continue to develop and solidify. I think the one on the right is the same one from the front angle.

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      A few more shots from yesterday

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      Check out how this showa's color developed. In this spawn, there was one showa that jumped out way ahead of all the other koi in growth. It was mostly a dull orange with sparse faint shadows of sumi down deep. I did not have much hope for it developing much good color or markings. To make sure it would not be eating the others or hawging most of the high protein food, I moved it out of the 1800 gallon pond to the 350 gallon tub, where it stayed in dingy or green water for several months with a couple of larger koi. Then today, I caught it and was surprised at how different it looked and moved it back to the pond.

      Compare this photo at 74 days old, about two and a half months, to today at about a year old. Notice black patch toward the back was barely visible haze in the earlier photo. The grey dot on the nose has become a black spot. The orange has darkened considerably, and so has the sumi on the left gill plate, as has the rest of the sumi. The fins are darker too. You can still see the same white notch protruding up into the orange on the left side of the chest, another indication this is the same fish. Also the size is a give-away that it is the same one. It is now 8 inches, still easily the largest. Showa development can indeed take time. Now I am hoping the sumi on the forehead will rise up.

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      I hope you did not make a mistake moving it out of the green dingy water. Algae is good for red, orange, and yellow color development.
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      Matt, how did the shiro utsuri frys turn out. Do they have any signs of red showing up?
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      Roger: The shiro utsuri are not showing red/orange specks as of yet. But in the past I have seen that it usually shows up when they get a little bigger. So I maybe I have that to look forward to.


      Nancy: Thanks, though the green water has gone away, shortly after the leaves came on the trees.

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      Matt, they say when they pair bekko with bekko they get sanke, but when they pair shiro utsuri with shiro utsuri they get shiro utsuri. It is just like other varieties, they still need to cull the mix. If you get a clean one, maybe you can try to bring the purity back.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Matt24 View Post
      Check out how this showa's color developed. In this spawn, there was one showa that jumped out way ahead of all the other koi in growth. It was mostly a dull orange with sparse faint shadows of sumi down deep. I did not have much hope for it developing much good color or markings. To make sure it would not be eating the others or hawging most of the high protein food, I moved it out of the 1800 gallon pond to the 350 gallon tub, where it stayed in dingy or green water for several months with a couple of larger koi. Then today, I caught it and was surprised at how different it looked and moved it back to the pond.

      Compare this photo at 74 days old, about two and a half months, to today at about a year old. Notice black patch toward the back was barely visible haze in the earlier photo. The grey dot on the nose has become a black spot. The orange has darkened considerably, and so has the sumi on the left gill plate, as has the rest of the sumi. The fins are darker too. You can still see the same white notch protruding up into the orange on the left side of the chest, another indication this is the same fish. Also the size is a give-away that it is the same one. It is now 8 inches, still easily the largest. Showa development can indeed take time. Now I am hoping the sumi on the forehead will rise up.

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      Matt,sumi can make anyone go nuts, understanding how your type of sumi develops its how you get to where you have set your goals; i.e.; in my case understanding how Goshiki sumi in this particular line behaves it's taking me on a 10 year journey at this point and it's all been documented so if my memory skips a moment I can refer back. I like your work on tempts, I like good data but have you done the same with your Gosanke crosses, just thinking. By the way I love that showa😁

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      Thanks Orlando. To me, the sumi development is more important to the looks of a showa than the pattern of the hi is. Granted, some keepers don't see it that way. The pattern of the red/orange tends to be pretty stable, but the sumi can change a lot over time.

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      in my case understanding how Goshiki sumi in this particular line behaves it's taking me on a 10 year journey at this point and it's all been documented so if my memory skips a moment I can refer back ....
      I hope sometime at your convenience, you will make a thread to share with us what you have learned in the journey of your goshiki line . My only dabbling with goshiki breeding was when I put a goshiki male in with my soragoi/ochiba spawn. I did get 3 goshiki that I liked enough to keep for 2-3 years before re-homing them. It was interesting how the sumi would get so dark in winter, and lighten so much in summer (post #51 of the thread below).
      https://www.koiphen.com/forums/showt...highlight=2013

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