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      Quote Originally Posted by FRK View Post
      Ok. Am sending my drawing to Russ for an estimate in Private message. Thanks guys I know you have my best interest in your hearts. Just trying to get this started on a shoe string and bitting my nails. But this afternoon the contractor I had lined up called and canceled me out due to commercial priorities.
      Glad you getting an estimate from Russ. He is knowledgeable and full of resources. If you do decide to go with him, I think it would be a very good choice. He built numerous ponds for other members here as well as the ponds in his new facility in Indiana which are pretty darn good / efficient. Cant go wrong with him.

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      Most concrete company's will supply you with the additive I've use different types and they all seem to do the same thing
      There lab told me it all the same just different prices
      Don't no if that's true but they all worked for me

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      If these tanks were under ground then other options might be cheaper and sufficient. Above ground tanks do have a lot of pressure of the side walls 8 inch thickness is fine. 6 inch is iffy and will most likely leak at the corner. Really though the small leak is not a big deal.and rebar is holding it all together

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      Quote Originally Posted by kevin32 View Post
      If these tanks were under ground then other options might be cheaper and sufficient. Above ground tanks do have a lot of pressure of the side walls 8 inch thickness is fine. 6 inch is iffy and will most likely leak at the corner. Really though the small leak is not a big deal.and rebar is holding it all together
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      Ive seen a mono pour that was 6 inch and just had a slight crack. Russ does his 8 inches and it is strong. the 6 inch pour was cheaper and the tank got demoed. babble babble dilly dilly

      Im just saying it is alot of pressure and needs to be done right.

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      Quote Originally Posted by kevin32 View Post
      Ive seen a mono pour that was 6 inch and just had a slight crack. Russ does his 8 inches and it is strong. the 6 inch pour was cheaper and the tank got demoed. babble babble dilly dilly
      Im just saying it is alot of pressure and needs to be done right.
      Many ponds in the UK are lined with fiberglass. And I think I heard somewhere that someone built an above grade pond out of wood but I don't know how thick. Emily built a pond with 8 inch blocks and it cracked. But she doesn't live in the UK so she didn't use fiberglass. Hydroplanes at first were built out of wood, then fiberglass, now graphite composite and aluminum. I don't think they've ever been built out of concrete, but I did hear of some boats with concrete hulls. Don't know if they cracked or had to be demo'd.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Pond,James_Pond View Post
      Many ponds in the UK are lined with fiberglass. And I think I heard somewhere that someone built an above grade pond out of wood but I don't know how thick. Emily built a pond with 8 inch blocks and it cracked. But she doesn't live in the UK so she didn't use fiberglass. Hydroplanes at first were built out of wood, then fiberglass, now graphite composite and aluminum. I don't think they've ever been built out of concrete, but I did hear of some boats with concrete hulls. Don't know if they cracked or had to be demo'd.

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      A koi dealer i went to had a 12x12 wood all above ground pond. He had to fasten the bottom down to the concrete slab on all 4 sides and used a piece of metal on the top to keep the sides from bowing to much. That pond is long gone now and was a bad idea lol

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      Quote Originally Posted by kevin32 View Post
      A koi dealer i went to had a 12x12 wood all above ground pond. He had to fasten the bottom down to the concrete slab on all 4 sides and used a piece of metal on the top to keep the sides from bowing to much. That pond is long gone now and was a bad idea lol
      Yeah, probably not pertinent to this guys concrete sealing thread though.





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      Quote Originally Posted by Pond,James_Pond View Post
      Many ponds in the UK are lined with fiberglass. And I think I heard somewhere that someone built an above grade pond out of wood but I don't know how thick. Emily built a pond with 8 inch blocks and it cracked. But she doesn't live in the UK so she didn't use fiberglass. Hydroplanes at first were built out of wood, then fiberglass, now graphite composite and aluminum. I don't think they've ever been built out of concrete, but I did hear of some boats with concrete hulls. Don't know if they cracked or had to be demo'd.

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      There are engineer clubs at universities that build and race concrete canoes every year, and during WW-II, due to the shortage of steel, some of the ships were built of concrete. Dams, levees, canals, sewage treatment facilities, water treatment facilities, ... are built out of concrete. And yes, some have cracked and leak, but so do steel ships.
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      if I have cinderblock walls, then even if a concrete truck arrived with xypex to fill the blocks, only the cells of the block will have xypex, not the walls of the blocks which means water could weep through the block and leak? or does the xypex penetrate into the block?

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      Quote Originally Posted by achappelear View Post
      if I have cinderblock walls, then even if a concrete truck arrived with xypex to fill the blocks, only the cells of the block will have xypex, not the walls of the blocks which means water could weep through the block and leak? or does the xypex penetrate into the block?
      Yes, it's advertised to penetrate into the block. I used Xypex Admix to fill my cinder block walls but also used Xypex Concentrate to coat the interior
      just as a precaution. My fear was I didn't use any additive in the mortar between the block and I wasn't sure how far the Xypex would actually travel
      and if it would be far enough to seal any leaks in the mortar seams. The Xypex rep thought it was overkill using a coating of Concentrate too but for
      $120 (or whatever the #40 bag was) it was cheap insurance imho.

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