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    Thread: Need help to diagnose fish health!!

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      Exclamation Need help to diagnose fish health!!

      One of my Koi started developing a growth on her nose last year and has been growing since, it also is starting to show up on front side of pectoral fins. I thought is was a tumor but now that I see it on the fins today I am starting to wonder. I have 12 Koi and none show signs of this but one does have a place on upper lip that I would normally attribute to a scrape or something but not sure now. I have attached a few pictures to help, it was hard to get a good picture but will try again.
      First, all water is at good levels and always has been, I did do a little salt but I'm sure my water changes has probably diminished any salt. I got these fish at the same time and they were around 3 to 6 inches and have been pretty healthy except for one that could not hardly get off bottom but now he is fine. I really need some help guysName:  IMG_3462.jpg
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      That on the nose is definitely a tumor. The growths on the fins may also be. There isn't a good enough view of them to tell much. Have you handled the spots on the fins, so that you can give a description of feel.

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      I agree. Both are tumors.
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      No I haven't but I will I try to do that Saturday, I have always tried to avoid chasing them around with a net. She seems fine and eats and swims with all the others but does seem to be a little more shy. I've got 3 of the 12 that will eat out of my hand but the others hang right there close and she usually is one of the ones that hang back more.

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      Ok if they are tumors then what if any would be course of action which if tumor might be nothing. I am an electrician and NOT a veterinarian so this might sound stupid but if tumor it should not be contagious especially since she has had this since last year. So I could rule out any treatable problem, my main concern besides her health is the health of the others.
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      That's basically correct. Most are not contagious and there isn't really much you can do without having a vet remove it surgically. I have one with one on her nose as well and it's been there for about 5 years. Not really much you can do.
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      Thank you for your response, that's what I thought last year but it has got bigger and then showed up on fins so it freaked me out a little. I started looking stuff up and the only things I could come up with even close was Lymphocystis or Pox

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      Those two things are generally kept to no more than the size of a pencil eraser and are usually always whitish in color. They also, to the touch, will feel hard and smooth and have a waxy feel to them. This is just like what my fish has although mine has never grown more than the size of a quarter. Warmer water will cause it to swell a bit more, but colder water will see it shrink somewhat. I had one other fish that had a large growth that looked exactly the same on the underside of her pec fin. She had it for 4-5 years, increasing in the warm water and almost completely disappearing in the Fall/Winter months. A few years ago it didn't come back and she's never shown signs of it since! Hmm!
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      Hey I meant to post a follow up to this thread a while back but forgot.
      Well she is clean as a bell and not sure how or why but all tumors seems to have just fallen off or dissolved, I really dont know. One day I go out there to feed and she looks totally normal.

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      I'm so glad to hear this! I had a koi with a growth on its head/face that looked the same. It also disappeared. This indicates that it looked like a tumor but was likely actually viral in origin.

      Glad it was a good ending!
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