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    Thread: Feeding Edamame and other fancy stuff

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      Feeding Edamame and other fancy stuff

      Looking to feed my fish some edamame and sweet potato this fall. Other than using shelled edamame are there any other things that should be done to the beans be for feeding? Plan on nuking the sweet potatoes before peeling and feeding. I'm looking for a boast in growth this fall.

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      I never feed anything or hear about edamame or real cooked potato. Maybe Hisilk 21- sweet popato is better off.
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      I have no opinion myself, but based on all of the ingredient bashing I have seen on this site regarding the amount of soy in some commercial food products, I am wondering what the consensus will be regarding feeding edamame. I would think sweet potatoes would be color enhancing due to the high concentration of beta carotene, but beyond that, I am not sure that they will contribute to growth.

      I will just sit back and watch for the comments to come in.

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      Hi Jim,
      Edamame, aka: soybeans, have compounds in them that are known to adversely affect the digestive processes in fish. Look to high content fishmeal pelletized feed for serious growth.

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      My fish are regularly given sweet potato ( no need to remove skin they eat the lot ) soft tinned or cooked fresh peas and chinese cabbage ( wombok ) all year round. It's delicious nutritious and the fish love it.

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      I feed many different types of fresh foods, including tofu, cooked rice and sweet potatoes. They also share most my garden-fresh fruits and vegetables with the exception of hot peppers and corn. Never seen any negative reactions from them except being overly aggressive to get more.

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      Quote Originally Posted by mtsklar View Post
      Hi Jim,
      Edamame, aka: soybeans, have compounds in them that are known to adversely affect the digestive processes in fish. Look to high content fishmeal pelletized feed for serious growth.
      Do you happen to remember the compounds?

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      I know many a koi hobbyist that is seriously into the show circuit that supplements the regular koi food they use with tofu as part of show prep. I've heard of it being used in Japan for show prep too for bulking up koi. I remember joking with some of them that they would buy cases of tofu (firm variety, as I recall) at Costco when they were gearing up in show prep.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn View Post
      I know many a koi hobbyist that is seriously into the show circuit that supplements the regular koi food they use with tofu as part of show prep. I've heard of it being used in Japan for show prep too for bulking up koi. I remember joking with some of them that they would buy cases of tofu (firm variety, as I recall) at Costco when they were gearing up in show prep.
      I'm very curious about this because Soy Beans are naturally high in Guanine and I've been reading up on it a lot.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Hope J View Post
      Do you happen to remember the compounds?
      Hello Hope J,
      start here : http://www.fao.org/3/T0700E/T0700E06.htm

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      It's impossible to just look at any of the plant products and automatically make assumptions on suitability as a blended ingredient in feed. Grain ingredients are processed many different ways and many forms produced. Each has its own compounds , nutritional properties, digestibility, health benefits and possible side effects.

      Processing of the ingredient and the blended feed can also greatly affect its nutritional value.
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      Quote Originally Posted by batman View Post
      It's impossible to just look at any of the grains and automatically make assumptions on suitability as a blended ingredient in feed. Grain ingredients are processed many different ways and many forms produced. Each has its own compounds , nutritional properties, digestibility, health benefits and possible side effects.

      Processing of the ingredient and the blended feed can also greatly affect its nutritional value.

      I saw that too and thought the same thing. Yoshimichi Sakai, who was the primary breeder at SFF, told me that he thought it was good to use both soybean and fishmeal in food but a slight edge to soybean.
      people like to vehemently defend their purchases and find it incredulous that anything could be better

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      The cleanest plant based proteins come from nuts. This is why Vegans with large amounts of Beans in their diets are having issues with high cholesterol etc. The same thing happened with dogs when people switched to grain-free foods that used beans as a low cost protein source, they started seeing heart disease and high cholesterol. So yes, there is a huge difference in the digestability of different plants. Soy seams to be about on Par with Nuts in this instance.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Hope J View Post
      The cleanest plant based proteins come from nuts. This is why Vegans with large amounts of Beans in their diets are having issues with high cholesterol etc. The same thing happened with dogs when people switched to grain-free foods that used beans as a low cost protein source, they started seeing heart disease and high cholesterol. So yes, there is a huge difference in the digestability of different plants. Soy seams to be about on Par with Nuts in this instance.
      I prefer fishmeal as a protein source for koi.

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