I can not deny ya ... it does look quite rough.
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Fish are as healthy at 95 mm Hg Partial Pressure as they are in 125.8777 mm Hg Partial Pressure at Sea Level. Necessity of 100% DO saturation for optimum Koi health is rubbish, derived from breeders whom need big money to pay their prices to keep them in business. Fish's health don't act different due to their price tag!!!
Russel, looking at the last, bottom, picture there. What was the concrete compound the person used?
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Fish are as healthy at 95 mm Hg Partial Pressure as they are in 125.8777 mm Hg Partial Pressure at Sea Level. Necessity of 100% DO saturation for optimum Koi health is rubbish, derived from breeders whom need big money to pay their prices to keep them in business. Fish's health don't act different due to their price tag!!!
Laying my head on my desk sideways so I can properly orient to view the picture...
Did some of those cinder blocks actually bust in half ??
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Fish are as healthy at 95 mm Hg Partial Pressure as they are in 125.8777 mm Hg Partial Pressure at Sea Level. Necessity of 100% DO saturation for optimum Koi health is rubbish, derived from breeders whom need big money to pay their prices to keep them in business. Fish's health don't act different due to their price tag!!!
Yes, because they were not filled properly. Here is the whole thread, you like to read...
https://www.koiphen.com/forums/showth...+wall+failures
Aaahh, so there might just be hope here for the mighty SBC to shine!!
If it is not the "compressive, axial loading" pressure that we're talking about? I think it is though, but I unsure.
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Fish are as healthy at 95 mm Hg Partial Pressure as they are in 125.8777 mm Hg Partial Pressure at Sea Level. Necessity of 100% DO saturation for optimum Koi health is rubbish, derived from breeders whom need big money to pay their prices to keep them in business. Fish's health don't act different due to their price tag!!!
Steve you are the most paranoid person I have ever dealt with. You probably believe the Newtown school shooting was a conspiracy along with 9-11. If people don't like the experiments that I do and it effects my business then that is my issue to work out. I don't need you telling me that everything I do is being examined. I personally think bio-ball filtration is hokey so it is fine for you to think what I do is the same.
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YES! I think SBC would have kept that wall together. That corner broke apart due to tensile forces...NOT compression forces. The fiberglass fibers combined within the cement are much stronger than the bond between type-s mortar and a dusty concrete block. I truly doubt that each block was sprayed down with water before having the mortar slapped onto it so the bond between the two is not very strong. The dry-stacked block wall is to be sprayed down with water before the SBC is applied so a stronger bond is achieved between the block and cement and the strength of the coating is greater than that of mortar.
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I'm really looking forward to how this comes along. Glad you're doing this Zac. Ya read my mind with this thread. I have been wondering how well SBC and xypex would work. I was kind of thinking of doing a mix like this as well.
What product of SBC did ya go with? hyperlink would be awesome.
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Fish are as healthy at 95 mm Hg Partial Pressure as they are in 125.8777 mm Hg Partial Pressure at Sea Level. Necessity of 100% DO saturation for optimum Koi health is rubbish, derived from breeders whom need big money to pay their prices to keep them in business. Fish's health don't act different due to their price tag!!!
ZAc given your history,,,,my presumption isn't paranoia
look at what you said,,,,,,,,,,,,you could save future costumers thousands........
well now if you talking thousands you're talking big.......
and you aint going to be doing big,,,,legally with inspections ,,,that is my point from the get go...............florida building code is pretty standerd ...
no engineer would put their @$$,,on the line with that ,,,and no building plan reviewer would sign off on it ..........period
that's my point you are a professional ,,,,,,
Zac if you really are into saving your customers money....do what all pool contractors do,,,,they hook a 1st. with a engineer or 2 ,,,and work a deal on some basic plans and sign offs ,,and set fees for basic changes
2nd.hook up woth a couple good concrete sub contractots who are licensed ,,have all the equipment and do this all the time and can do what they do best,,,and cheaper because they have already done all the leg work of getting the good deals on the cement,pumps and steel.....plus they already have relations with the area inspectors ................that leaves you to what you do best,,,and what you can control ...the rough and final plumbing and building the filtration system ..............everyone one wins then
Not about filling cells specifically, but wondered if this might apply to your question... this is from the a bag of SBC (Quikwall) I had in the garage:
Blocks should be laid on a firm and even foundation. Set the first (only the first) course of blocks in a bed of either QUIKWALL Surface Bonding Cement or QUIKRETE Mortar Mix. This layer must be set plumb and level. NO MORTAR IS USED IN ANY VERTICAL JOINT AND ONLY IN THE HORIZONTAL JOINT BETWEEN FOUNDATION AND FIRST COURSE.
The caps are theirs, not mine.
I'm pretty sure Zac wouldn't be doing an experiment on a customers pond. After reading lots of his other threads and builds I'm sure he knows what he's doing. He also doesn't seem like the type that would cut corners. This thread is a good example why I would never post any pictures or information of my own work on here due to certain people tearing everything apart and telling others they don't know what the hell their doing. Dealers on this forum that have big ego's and are always criticizing peoples builds and ideas I will never give any business to. Like ICU2 said, "did Zac have to ask for permission before he did this experiment?"
I've requested that posters review and edit their posts that aren't on the topic of the materials or methods being used in the build of the original poster.
I'll edit if need be. Personal attacks and/or opinions of business practices aren't constructive or appropriate in a construction thread.
Thank you.
Steve, this has nothing to do with what I am talking about. This is referring to the mortar that goes between the blocks,i.e. the joints, I am talking about the rebar and CONCRETE that goes inside of the cells that will give the wall it's structural integrity. Also, everything I have found about doing these dry stack walls does not have anything to do with what he is doing. He is creating a vessel that holds a lot of water and there is a lot of stress placed on the walls. All of the instructions I have read were for walls for a house or garage that are free from lateral stresses.