Tosai

[rainblood]

Are you absolutly sure? Is that your final answer?

Ok top 3. Final answer


So...which fish did I win

[Russell Peters]

Ok top 3. Final answer


So...which fish did I win

That's better but you missed one.

[rainblood]

That's better but you missed one.

You, sir, said Kohaku. That other one you circled is a Shiro Muji with secondary beni

[Russell Peters]

The point of all this is to understand the process of finding the Tosai with the best future potential and that starts with skin. When I pick Koi on any level this is what I look for first. Once I find the Koi, I tub them and then assess them further. This is when conformation and pattern affect my decisions. More often than not I will go with a Koi that has better quality, than pattern, at a young age because patterns can change. What you do when you pick is up to you. If you absolutely have to have a certain pattern and you are happy with the choice, buy it. When it comes down to it this hobby should be about what you want. Having said that, I know for a fact that when you learn more about quality, your choices will be more informed and will probably change.

[Russell Peters]

You, sir, said Kohaku. That other one you circled is a Shiro Muji with secondary beni

You may be right Sherlock.

[KatieVL]

I think I am finally getting the hang of this. Good shiro is becoming easily identifiable. But what about sumi and beni? That seems harder to identify on the pics.

[Russell Peters]

I think I am finally getting the hang of this. Good shiro is becoming easily identifiable. But what about sumi and beni? That seems harder to identify on the pics.

They are more difficult and it will take time.

[BAVOTOI]

what about kohaku at 6 olock's one up pattern like lighing. what you think about that.

[Russell Peters]

what about kohaku at 6 olock's one up pattern like lighing. what you think about that.

It's not as good. We are judging skin quality and not pattern at this point.

[BAVOTOI]

sorry

[Russell Peters]

sorry

Don't be, please participate and ask as many questions as you would like. I am starting with basics, which can be difficult to pick up, so it's one thing at a time. I am trying to keep each thread focused on one idea rather than deal with everything all at once. In the long run it's easier to learn that way.
I want you to be able to see what makes a good quality Koi and it starts with skin.

[Marilyn]

I think I am finally getting the hang of this. Good shiro is becoming easily identifiable. But what about sumi and beni? That seems harder to identify on the pics.

Have patience.
The first step is being able to identify the luster in skin and it's easiest to see in shiro. The rest will come.

[erwinsan]

Maybe missed one more, good tsuya on beni

[Marilyn]

I quite like this one for tsuya in beni.

[rainblood]

Maybe missed one more, good tsuya on beni

I quite like this one for tsuya in beni.

Well, this koi has incredible teaka although a little weak in makisagari. While these aren't considered takai and are a far cry from souygyo, the tarai aids in bring out the teri, which is often difficult, if not impossible, to depict in pictures.

Disclaimer: I got your tsuya right here

[erwinsan]

Well, this koi has incredible teaka although a little weak in makisagari. While these aren't considered takai and are a far cry from souygyo, the tarai aids in bring out the teri, which is often difficult, if not impossible, to depict in pictures.

Disclaimer: I got your tsuya right here

[Russell Peters]

Well, this koi has incredible teaka although a little weak in makisagari. While these aren't considered takai and are a far cry from souygyo, the tarai aids in bring out the teri, which is often difficult, if not impossible, to depict in pictures.

Disclaimer: I got your tsuya right here

Which Koi terminology book are you using?

[rainblood]

Which Koi terminology book are you using?

Get on my level homes

[premster]

So as a koi they need to show more skin

[Russell Peters]

So as a koi they need to show more skin

No, but it is easier to learn about luster by judging the Shiroji first. Seeing it in Beni and Sumi is more difficult. That comes later.