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    Thread: Scarlett - Kohaku

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      Quote Originally Posted by FLABOY08 View Post
      Rain,

      You haven't come across a fish yet that wasn't flawless??
      Perfection if subjective, but no I don't think such a fish exists
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      Quote Originally Posted by rainblood View Post
      Perfection if subjective, but no I don't think such a fish exists
      agreed.

      this fish is spectacular though.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Super Kindai View Post
      Good, thick and uniform, Hi plate but we can't say it's a good body.

      here is pics of the nearly perfect one step kohaku....
      And I see nothing spectacular about this fishes pattern.

      But that is why I purchased mine.

      I agree, its personal preference.
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      Quote Originally Posted by rainblood View Post
      In a world of no perfect fish - please explain the nearly
      Hi has entered in the dorsal fin partially and a slight disorder of the left side Hi line and kiwa.

      That kind of one step pattern are being culled in an early stage in most cases. but according to a breeder of that fish, the body is look very much like original Sensuke kohaku.....

      Btw, Scarlet is considered as a closest color to Hi color in Japanese terms, Crimson red is a Beni color, then Carmine red probably is a Pink beni

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      Quote Originally Posted by Super Kindai View Post
      Hi has entered in the dorsal fin partially and a slight disorder of the left side Hi line and kiwa.

      That kind of one step pattern are being culled in an early stage in most cases. but according to a breeder of that fish, the body is look very much like original Sensuke kohaku.....

      Btw, Scarlet is considered as a closest color to Hi color in Japanese terms, Crimson red is a Beni color, then Carmine red probably is a Pink beni
      sUPER kINDAI -

      What is wrong with the body on this fish that koiaddict is showing, particularly? For a fish of this size, I think it has a very full body, not fat, but very full.

      ??

      I just don't see an issue with it.

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      Not the best angle, but how'd I do
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      Your saying she's fat? She will kill me if I share that her waist line is a bit round.

      I think I'll spare her that part. LOL
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      Quote Originally Posted by koiaddict View Post
      And I see nothing spectacular about this fishes pattern.

      But that is why I purchased mine.

      I agree, its personal preference.
      it won't be appreciated at koi shows but that's "the nearly perfect one step" is very rare in terms of breeding since there are many, many tancho, 2-3 steps and inazuma pattern, etc.
      Pattern wise, your kohaku has well-refined a good powerful pattern, although it's a continuous, IMO.

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      Thanks - I find it powerful too.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ethan25 View Post
      sUPER kINDAI -

      What is wrong with the body on this fish that koiaddict is showing, particularly? For a fish of this size, I think it has a very full body, not fat, but very full.
      ??

      I just don't see an issue with it.

      Ethan
      Pls take a look at these " full body" compared with that koiaddict' kohaku body line.

      Btw, Ethan, Your "Quality Koi sanke, 8", small Nisai" has same issue in terms of body flow and bone frame.
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      Quote Originally Posted by koiaddict View Post
      Thanks - I find it powerful too.
      I imagine that she shows a powerful impression when she is swimming around in your pond....
      IMO, Internet is a good learning tool indeed but in the real world, koi is not supposed to be judged by a motionless picture but should be judged and appreciated in a swimming motion....

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      Good points. SHe was a very shy fish, being used to Rich's mud. She used to be the one to eat last. Now, they eat together & she proves to own the pond. But it could be that we are so enamoured with her. Or the fact that she's the highest quality fish we have. lol
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      How do you judge bone structure on a smaller fish?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Super Kindai View Post
      Pls take a look at these " full body" compared with that koiaddict' kohaku body line.

      Btw, Ethan, Your "Quality Koi sanke, 8", small Nisai" has same issue in terms of body flow and bone frame.
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      The fish surely isn't the longest looking sansai I have ever seen. To me, it looks as though there is a chance it is pregnant, especially when looking at the turning picture.


      I outlined the body with black to see what we are looking at. I'd have purchased this one in a heartbeat as I think it has the potential to grow big. Just becuase it is (possibly) pregnant at this stage of its life doesn't mean that it necessarily has poor bone structure.
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      Quote Originally Posted by koiaddict View Post
      Your saying she's fat? She will kill me if I share that her waist line is a bit round.

      I think I'll spare her that part. LOL
      lol .. I think junichi san is saying that scarlett has a big butt ,,
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      Quote Originally Posted by rainblood View Post
      How do you judge bone structure on a smaller fish?
      We have to see it to believe it.......the lower left one.
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      These are, about same size 22", in a different grade.
      As we can see, left one is incomparably better than right one. the price difference is three times.
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      Jumbo tosai about 14".....very good body and quality but lack of show standard pattern (good pond fish) = inexpensive.
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      and monsters...........

      Nisai about 22"... great body, quality and pattern = Very high price.
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