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    Thread: 16-17" Certified Female Nisai Omosako Shiro Utsuri

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lam Nguyen View Post
      Junichi-san, I will see if I can quote a section from the textbook KOI I that discussed Magoi-influenced sumi.
      Aha Lam-san, "Magoi-influenced sumi" was written in a book.
      Although I don't know about the textbook KOI, it is interesting to know how Magoi's brown-grayish, a sort of boke zumi, influence to a navy-blue based refine Shiro Uturi zumi in recent years...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Speck View Post
      I'm giving up on this shiro because of the yellow, so Lam is buying it from me as a gamble. I think it will improve but I don't know how much. I have a sibling of this fish in the same pond who has remained bone white all summer. So no, I can't explain and don't want to postulate. Heavy feeding, sunlight, genetics, sex, sexual maturity, all may be factors. Omosakos in particular can change a lot, and this fish has enough positives to make it worth watching. But I had to make some cuts.
      Got it.
      Thanks Jeff.

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      how much patient do you have? given the pond/water condition in the US, not sure I would gamble on this one.

      Steve

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      I read that yellowing may be hormone production in femal shiro's.
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      Here are more pixs of Kiiroogaru (translated Yellow Girl). She measures at 42cm (16.5 inches). And yes, it's a confirmed female.
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      It looks really nice but I do not understant why it is so yellow.

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      Excellent pics, Lam.

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      I don't like it. I think it has a nice body, and I know shiros tend to brighten up, but these one just seems flat. No shine or luster.
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      Quote Originally Posted by koi123 View Post
      It looks really nice but I do not understant why it is so yellow.
      Yeah, not too sure either. But that is why Jeff let it go. Will gamble and give her a try to see if she will clear up.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Speck View Post
      Excellent pics, Lam.
      Thanks Jeff. Let's see if I can clear her up and get some length on her.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Hirogoi View Post
      I don't like it. I think it has a nice body, and I know shiros tend to brighten up, but these one just seems flat. No shine or luster.
      Hirogoi, that's exactly what I was thinking last night when I bowled her up for pixs. She doesn't seem to have the tsuya, or skin luster.

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      Believe it or not, it has actually whitened up quite a bit now in the last month. I think you can see it was more yellow in my pic that Lam started the thread with. That was maybe 3 weeks ago.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Speck View Post
      Believe it or not, it has actually whitened up quite a bit now in the last month. I think you can see it was more yellow in my pic that Lam started the thread with. That was maybe 3 weeks ago.
      Thanks Jeff. From physically comparing her from when she first arrived and when I took the pixs yesterday, I believe that she has whitened up some, but not a lot. Pixs can be deceiving and I think that I used more light exposure than you did. That's why it is so hard to judge from pixs and why I recommend physically looking at a koi before making a purchase.

      Care to share the two shiros that you kept? I know that they will put this shiro to shame, but we are all learning here.

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      I told Lam that I bought several Omosakos this year, knowing I would only have the space to keep 2 or 3 into next growing season. So as a curiousity here are the two I'm keeping. The third one shown is listed somewhere in the trader forum, but I'm not opposed to keeping it another year also. I like the patterns, but there are pros and cons to each of them. I think Lam's has the best body for its age. #1 "Tejima" is my favorite but not certified female, #2 is a chagoi personality in a shiro body and I'm going to have a hard time keeping her from becoming a pot-bellied blimp, but very nice shiroji. #3 has excellent height on the body, but head is a little pointy and a lot of black. I basically stuck with these two (or three) because they are the most aggressive eaters, and the first two are now at 18 inches.

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      Depending on the yellow issue, Lam's really could turn out to be the best IMO.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lam Nguyen View Post
      Hirogoi, that's exactly what I was thinking last night when I bowled her up for pixs. She doesn't seem to have the tsuya, or skin luster.
      Generally speaking, a luster (or tsuya/teri) drops, once you use koi for a show or if koi are being shipped for some reason. and it takes for a while to regain a luster to same level. (If a koi does not have tsuya by nature, it won't back forever though. )

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Speck View Post
      I told Lam that I bought several Omosakos this year, knowing I would only have the space to keep 2 or 3 into next growing season. So as a curiousity here are the two I'm keeping. The third one shown is listed somewhere in the trader forum, but I'm not opposed to keeping it another year also. I like the patterns, but there are pros and cons to each of them. I think Lam's has the best body for its age. #1 "Tejima" is my favorite but not certified female, #2 is a chagoi personality in a shiro body and I'm going to have a hard time keeping her from becoming a pot-bellied blimp, but very nice shiroji. #3 has excellent height on the body, but head is a little pointy and a lot of black. I basically stuck with these two (or three) because they are the most aggressive eaters, and the first two are now at 18 inches.
      #1 "tejima" looks a good SU indeed. I am wondering if there is no sign of a gender at all even 18" ?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lam Nguyen View Post
      Here are more pixs of Kiiroogaru (translated Yellow Girl). She measures at 42cm (16.5 inches). And yes, it's a confirmed female.
      Lam-san, Have you ever heard or read any books about the difference between a thick skin and a thin skin? and how does the difference effect for koi's appearance and its growth for the future?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Super Kindai View Post
      #1 "tejima" looks a good SU indeed. I am wondering if there is no sign of a gender at all even 18" ?
      I haven't looked at the vent or tried for milt. I usually just wait until their second spring and see if they get rough and chase, and maybe check under the hood then.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Speck View Post
      I haven't looked at the vent or tried for milt. I usually just wait until their second spring and see if they get rough and chase, and maybe check under the hood then.
      , I see..

      often we can figure it out in a second by just touching fish.

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