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    Thread: Fukurin on an Asagi

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      Fukurin on an Asagi

      Here is a great example of fukurin on an Asagi!
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      That's a great photo, too. Its hard to capture the glow of fukurin.
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      Do you know what causes the skin to show? Is this something that develops with size/age, or is it more related to a scute type scale?
      Just trying to understand all this terms and this one is new to me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by jessiecravens View Post
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      Do you know what causes the skin to show? Is this something that develops with size/age, or is it more related to a scute type scale?
      Just trying to understand all this terms and this one is new to me.
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      Jessie,

      From my understanding it's a genetic trait that was mostly only seen in in higher quality Yamabuki Ogon and some other hikari varieties, but in recent years it is in high quality gosanke varieties (Kohaku, Sanke and Showa). It develops with age, but last year at the Toshio Sakai harvest celebration dinner Toshio San gave us a little class on how to pick a young Kohaku that will develop the fukurin. Ironacally, I had seen the signs in one of the Kohaku that we bred and was thinking about culling it, but after listing to Toshio and seeing some photos he had, I kept it to grow another year and it improved greatly.

      The Asagi is one of the oldest Nishikigoi varieties, so I'm thinking the trait may have originated with them. I'll try to find out.
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      Asagi is the first developed color variety and all other color varieties were developed from it.

      Keep in mind fukerin is not scale but skin.

      As Gene indicated with Gosanke, unless you know what to look for and the genetics has it in the first place, It's difficult to know at tosai, easier at nisei
      and pretty obvious at 3 years of age. Even in Asagi you don't see the net pattern properly till the age of three.

      While Asagi is a great example, some of the better Yamabuki's are pretty impressive.

      many of Tosio Sakai's gosanke have this feature in his matsunosuke bloodline.
      It is better easily seen at age 7-8 as the fish begins to finish. Domestic breeder Nisei Koi farm an operation of quality koi in new jersey has this bloodline to work with. A friend of mine in the Tri-cities of washington state has a sanke from Mat that at the end of age two is showing this feature strongly. It is from Toshio's Magoi bloodline.

      His fish ( Toshio's) also feature matsunosuke Gin, a scalation that looks like Gin Rin but is not. Those koi that disp[lay the gin feature seems to have to develop nice skin. Here is an example at the end of the age of tosai of a sanke of Toshio's that has Gin. It is two rows along the side. ( if you think it's hard to see at this stage you should have seen it when It first came in )
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      while my asagi isn't as old as the one pictured by Gene, you can see the progress at the 3rd year as the net pattern becomes obvious
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      If you only knew what we went trough to get that photo. Once I get back to my office I'll post the photos and tell the story.

      Here is the rest of the koi.

      It didn't fit! I'll downsize it and try again.
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      Photos of the koi taken by two others. Unfortunately, we had taken Martin to the train station just before we went back up into the Yamakoshi mountains. :sad:
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      Hosoki San has been holding this koi for me. He has given me 48 hours and I've got 6 left. My prospective client has declined and there is another dealer waiting on it.

      This is the #1 Asagi in Niigata right now and was photographed yesterday to be feautred in an up coming breeders magazine.

      This Asagi is 32.28" at 7-years-old. The first $23,000 gets it. That is the cost delivered to your home.
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      It is extremely rare to find an Asagi of this age and size that doesn't have some damage. With gosanke you can get by with a ding or small scar, but one of the most important considerations on an Asagi is the reticulation of the scales. A small scar will ruin it.

      The breeder is fine since the koi is sold to someone, but he did tell me he hoped someone bought it that wouldn't be draging it all over the country to shows.

      I'm confident that I could get the koi delivered to the buyer without any damage, but I must say I'll be somewhat relieved if I don't have to. You wouldn't believe the stress that sort of thing causes me. :sad:
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