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      Hydrangea never blooms

      Here's one in the spirit of the new forum....

      We have two hydrangeas that have never bloomed. Off the top of my head I cant remember what they are, but they are different. Each have been in the ground for three years, IIRC, but have never bloomed. WIfe loves them and is discouraged that they wont bloom.

      Additionally, we have a climbing hydrangea that is about 3-4 years old and has never bloomed, thought I understand they are slow. Also planted two Oakleafs this past summer....if they dont bloom Im giving up.

      Thoughts/suggestions?

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      Quote Originally Posted by luke-gr
      Here's one in the spirit of the new forum....

      We have two hydrangeas that have never bloomed. Off the top of my head I cant remember what they are, but they are different. Each have been in the ground for three years, IIRC, but have never bloomed. WIfe loves them and is discouraged that they wont bloom.

      Additionally, we have a climbing hydrangea that is about 3-4 years old and has never bloomed, thought I understand they are slow. Also planted two Oakleafs this past summer....if they dont bloom Im giving up.

      Thoughts/suggestions?

      Thanks in advance,
      Luke
      For what's it worth mine are having problems this year blooming to Have you used mircid acid? Are they in sun or shade? Climbing one can takes years they say


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      Okay I'm hijacking for a second question. I have one which has grown beautifully and sort of flowers pink on one side, blue on the other. I say sorta cause the inner part of the flower is fine but the blossoms that are supposed to surround that part are sparse. So I never really get full blooms or anything I'd put in a vase. Mine gets morning sun and a smidge of late afternoon sun. Clay soil was ammended and its mulched every year. They are plenty watered too cause I live in that now famous area of NY that won't stop flooding.
      My apologies for the hijack Luke but I thought since your question was hydrangeas we could get a two for the price of one from a master.

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      Quote Originally Posted by CarlaC
      Okay I'm hijacking for a second question. I have one which has grown beautifully and sort of flowers pink on one side, blue on the other. I say sorta cause the inner part of the flower is fine but the blossoms that are supposed to surround that part are sparse. So I never really get full blooms or anything I'd put in a vase. Mine gets morning sun and a smidge of late afternoon sun. Clay soil was ammended and its mulched every year. They are plenty watered too cause I live in that now famous area of NY that won't stop flooding.
      My apologies for the hijack Luke but I thought since your question was hydrangeas we could get a two for the price of one from a master.
      Are you amending the soil by adding aluminum sulfate to the soil prior to budding to produce or keep blue flowers; or by liming or adding quantities of superphosphate to the soil to produce the pink ones? Hydrangeas that freeze back to the ground may never bloom, so you might have to cut them back to the ground and provide a heavy mulch to the roots prior to any hard freezes if you want to stand a chance of flowers at all.


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      Do you prune them? Hydrangea improper pruning or a late winter frost on these after they have broken dormancy will damage their flowerbuds.

      No bloom the following summer, they will only bloom on old wood. This is for most species of Hydrangea.
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      Good Luke, the climbing versian does take a long time!!
      I had one for years..about the 5 year, it had one bloom...
      the next year 1 blloom. I told it that it had one more year
      and there had better be more than one bloom
      prime garden space, ya know Well, the next year, one
      bloom..he's no longer a part of the landscape!!
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      Climbing... last year mine had many beautiful blooms. This year the painter pulled it down to paint :mad:
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      I once heard add superphosphate to promote blooms. Do not remember exactly when or how much, but I think it was added late winter/early spring.

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      I have not pruned any of them. The climber I am patient with. The other two are different kinds. One is in full sun; the other a bit less sun, but still gets plenty.

      Marie, what is the acid you mention?

      Edit: Superphosphate. I'll look it up.

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      Is the plant dying back to the ground during the winter?
      This past spring we had a cold snap in April and all the old growth as well as the new growth died. I had no blooms this year. I am in zone 7B several hours south of you in SC.
      Funny thing is this is the first year it has not bloomed . The cold snap killed the new growth on which the new blooms form.
      Each winter, if you plant is dying back to the ground, unfortunately you will not have any blooms the following spring.

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      Quote Originally Posted by luke-gr
      I have not pruned any of them. The climber I am patient with. The other two are different kinds. One is in full sun; the other a bit less sun, but still gets plenty.

      Marie, what is the acid you mention?

      Edit: Superphosphate. I'll look it up.
      Mine die back every winter and I still get blooms I was out there to night and have some blooms In the early spring when the plant starts to bud you need to spread around the plant aluminum sulfate for blue flowers, pink flowers in alkaline soil, and white in neutral You might have to cut them back in fall and mulch them heavy to get blooms for next year

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      The problem I had was all the stalks died. The old growth showed no green inside. I was sick that I had no blooms this year. Funny thing is the plant grew new stalks from the ground and looks great so if I can keep these stalks alive, I will have blooms next year as mine bloom on last years growth.

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      Quote Originally Posted by lsst
      The problem I had was all the stalks died. The old growth showed no green inside. I was sick that I had no blooms this year. Funny thing is the plant grew new stalks from the ground and looks great so if I can keep these stalks alive, I will have blooms next year as mine bloom on last years growth.

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      In fall I don't cut back my stalks and in Spring because of the die back they shoot new ones I think we get colder than you so you should have no problems


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      Don't know about the climbing ones, but normal plants will flower on 2nd year woody stems so if you cut back every year stop for at least 2. Now your soil conditions and other conditions may have an affect.
      Old timer once told me to put old nails around roots to get them to turn blue.
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      Give them coffee grounds, these plants like acid soil. Do not cut them for several years.

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      Quote Originally Posted by sundan
      Give them coffee grounds, these plants like acid soil. Do not cut them for several years.
      True but for blue flowers you need to add aluminum sulfate early in Spring Mine are under my pine tree and have acid soil but for blue you need the AS


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      After thinking about it for two days, maybe I did cut one of the hydrangeas last winter. I dont think I would have if it had been green inside. I wont do it this year for sure. Thanks!

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      I contacted the local extention service and assked why mine didn't bloom and he said to surround it with a wind barrier (what ever they make potato sacks out of) for the winter. I did and it has bloomed like mad this year. He says the cold wind in winter really saps all of its strength

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      Chapel Hill NC, The university with a Dr. Dirr has developed a plant called a rebloomer that blooms on this years growth. It was found originally in a nursery in the mid west. They come in several types, mopheads, minatures, oakleaf with names like Penny Mac, Oak Hill, Decatur Blue, endless summer. They will be releasing 2 million plants in the spring

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      Wanman, thanks for the links...I just saw this and will check out this eve.

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