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      Quote Originally Posted by RichToyBox View Post
      My son was stationed in Pakistan and we were able to Skype with him, no problem. Of course it would depend on his broadband connection as to whether he was able to see moving pictures.
      Richard, makes sense. i'm thinking i will get some answers from my Verizon provider before i get too far down this line.



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      ki shusui

      Quote Originally Posted by Arid View Post
      Oops, I didnt attach the pictures.....Im talking about the third picture in this particular thread....
      aaron!

      I found the pic of that shusui and he's not my best of that type, but he is getting yellow markings.
      First his head is going yellow-- which is not my favorite look for a shusui (!) see the close-up, but he also has ki on his tail and fins and maybe a yellow splotch on one of his flanks, too. I'll be on the lookout for him and keep you posted. I shouldn't be too hard on him. Let's see how he develops.

      Here are a few others from today's catch.

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      Hi MAX & kI TEAM
      Well My thoughts on Age of brood fish yes there is no rush here and Age three is normal for a female to produce eggs ! and two years for a male to produce milt !.
      In Mud ponds it can happen much quicker and is all down to good diet and minerals in abundance helps mature a koi ! and some just mature quickly and some not !,as also indoors in my set up they also mature within two years and thats both sexes and that can be down to diet and light manipulation .
      But if you don't have any that are ready to spawn this year you can look over stock and check them out and see what they are ! to give you numbers of each sex and get a good ratio and plan more ahead when the time come's if you decide to go this route as its more work involved .
      But as a control it will give you the indepth knowlage of your brood fish within your pond and help plan and manage your stock better and help keep the best producers of Ki shusui and other types wich are also important in the mix !In this case Midori goi and shusui + any other mutants you want to make into a line or new type that's special to Broccoli Hall .
      So it would be good to see all the stock and mutants produced and see were best to go and how to manage and help progress to what the main Goal is and how you want it to go in the direction you would like ,but with brood stock you get a few surprizes and may find keeping the best looking fish may not produce the best !.
      and this is were test spawns come into their own as untill you do this stage you won't know for sure the best brood fish to keep as you cannot possably see the gene set just by looking ,as perfect looking fish may not produce well as its all on the other fish also its paired with is another factor here .
      So alot of work to look at and see what's going on in your pond and to translate the Data and make sensce of it all ,and this may take a few years to get to a full conclusion any way so time is needed and there will be no quick answer's , so may be a long game anyways ,and like me your in it for the long Game !.

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      Age to Spawn: Another Wayne post for the Save File

      Quote Originally Posted by wayne1 View Post
      Hi MAX & kI TEAM
      Well My thoughts on Age of brood fish yes there is no rush here and Age three is normal for a female to produce eggs ! and two years for a male to produce milt !.
      In Mud ponds it can happen much quicker and is all down to good diet and minerals in abundance helps mature a koi ! and some just mature quickly and some not !,as also indoors in my set up they also mature within two years and thats both sexes and that can be down to diet and light manipulation .
      But if you don't have any that are ready to spawn this year you can look over stock and check them out and see what they are ! to give you numbers of each sex and get a good ratio and plan more ahead when the time come's if you decide to go this route as its more work involved .
      But as a control it will give you the indepth knowlage of your brood fish within your pond and help plan and manage your stock better and help keep the best producers of Ki shusui and other types wich are also important in the mix !In this case Midori goi and shusui + any other mutants you want to make into a line or new type that's special to Broccoli Hall .
      So it would be good to see all the stock and mutants produced and see were best to go and how to manage and help progress to what the main Goal is and how you want it to go in the direction you would like ,but with brood stock you get a few surprizes and may find keeping the best looking fish may not produce the best !.
      and this is were test spawns come into their own as untill you do this stage you won't know for sure the best brood fish to keep as you cannot possably see the gene set just by looking ,as perfect looking fish may not produce well as its all on the other fish also its paired with is another factor here .
      So alot of work to look at and see what's going on in your pond and to translate the Data and make sensce of it all ,and this may take a few years to get to a full conclusion any way so time is needed and there will be no quick answer's , so may be a long game anyways ,and like me your in it for the long Game !.
      Wayne, this is great!
      Makes perfect sense and give me more time to get the F2 project in place including the part where I figure out what to do with several million potential "Holy Grail" fry while they get their colors going.

      So, here's the plan for now.
      Pull the ponds as planned.
      Look at the tosai -- possibly with streaming video.

      Look at their little s and determine sex etc.
      Release the best, say, 3 dozen back into the tosai pond.

      Rehome the remainder, many of whom will stay here at BH in freshly culled learning curve pond and ki shusui project pond for gene pool preservation.

      Let the top 3 dozen do whatever they want in 2014. If we get flock spawn, that's
      F2 for the research.

      Then, 2015, the kids are three. That's when we put in walkways, get the kids into the net basket dorm rooms, and possibly introduce Akemi Kigoi to one or more of the ones who look good enough to replicate.

      Long Game, Wayne.
      It's not called "the Elusive Ki Shusui" by accident.

      Do the dance!



      Wayne!

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      Max yes it's a good plan ! .
      I have been busy as you know with my breeding and experientation and development of '' KI SHUSUI '' and as you know I cross differant fish with every breeding programe and read new papers on koi breeding from breeders around the world !.
      I have some new information this year and have acted upon it with my spawings and so far the results are very good but I need the full results to also confirm this new paper on koi and my experiment is always on going and I even after 38 years of koi breeding learn every day but this new paper is quite amazing and looking at my own on going work has confirmed some impressive findings so ,when I have the full report concluded I feel we also have some extra help at hand we can put to good use in our breeeding programe to help us !.
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      I realize you will want to break this news on your thread .... but (!!!!)

      Quote Originally Posted by wayne1 View Post
      Max yes it's a good plan ! .
      I have been busy as you know with my breeding and experientation and development of '' KI SHUSUI '' and as you know I cross differant fish with every breeding programe and read new papers on koi breeding from breeders around the world !.
      I have some new information this year and have acted upon it with my spawings and so far the results are very good but I need the full results to also confirm this new paper on koi and my experiment is always on going and I even after 38 years of koi breeding learn every day but this new paper is quite amazing and looking at my own on going work has confirmed some impressive findings so ,when I have the full report concluded I feel we also have some extra help at hand we can put to good use in our breeeding programe to help us !.
      In the thriller business we call posts like this "CREATING SUSPENSE...."


      But, Wayne, you should really whisper this news to one of your good koiphen friends and fellow traveler.......................................... .......... (Me!)

      I cannot wait!!!!!



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      Spent a couple of enjoyable days with Wayne - at his place and mine - discussing all things koi.
      Saw Wayne's fry for this year, and managed to take a few (ki shusui,showa/sanke) home with me, so they're settling in right now.
      Will post some pics as they progress.
      Ok Wayne free advert over - but thanks a bunch.
      If you're not meant to eat animals, why are they made of meat?

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      Quote Originally Posted by skidad_2007 View Post
      Spent a couple of enjoyable days with Wayne - at his place and mine - discussing all things koi.
      Saw Wayne's fry for this year, and managed to take a few (ki shusui,showa/sanke) home with me, so they're settling in right now.
      Will post some pics as they progress.
      Ok Wayne free advert over - but thanks a bunch.
      Lucky you!
      Do you have a picture of Wayne showing you his fry?
      If so, please post picture of Wayne!



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      I'm sure Wayne will send you a pic if you ask.
      ps read all the books - favourite novellist
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      Quote Originally Posted by skidad_2007 View Post
      I'm sure Wayne will send you a pic if you ask.
      ps read all the books - favourite novellist
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      well I like to keep a loof !and breeding papers are only passed out at certain times from test sites and labs ,but I have all the inside info as you know I test spawn and experiment in all my fish .
      my real name is Bruce Wayne lol !
      and im to old and ugly to be posting pic's of my self lol !
      for me its about the fish not the people !.
      To the bat cave !.
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      Quote Originally Posted by wayne1 View Post
      well I like to keep a loof !and breeding papers are only passed out at certain times from test sites and labs ,but I have all the inside info as you know I test spawn and experiment in all my fish .
      my real name is Bruce Wayne lol !
      and im to old and ugly to be posting pic's of my self lol !
      for me its about the fish not the people !.
      To the bat cave !.
      Wayne!

      You'll always be Bruce Wayne to me!

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      Inazuma: The phenomenon known as "crapping out."

      :yo:

      :diver:Team Ki, friends and fellow travelers,

      There is total transparency here in the mud, people!! :diver:

      See Bat Koi, in previous post.

      (Watch, someone will say, "I love that fish!")

      (:thunder: Mr. Rainblood sez, "I love that fish!")


      And now,

      The phenomenon known as "crapping out."

      -- Inazuma, one of the very best in this spawn, two and a half weeks ago.

      -- Inazuma, yesterday.

      By tomorrow, will be a blue shusui with no ki whatsoever. whereas "yellow rainbow," a close sibling holds true.

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      Hi MAX
      WELL BAT FISH ! lol ! you see we do have other fish in there and looks like the Konjo Asagi /shusui gene has a place in the pond as that gene is giving you the blue! and in this case black !bruce wayne fish !to the cave Robin !.
      Will you call this one Wayne ! he has nice sumi !lol !

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      Quote Originally Posted by wayne1 View Post
      Hi MAX
      WELL BAT FISH ! lol ! you see we do have other fish in there and looks like the Konjo Asagi /shusui gene has a place in the pond as that gene is giving you the blue! and in this case black !bruce wayne fish !to the cave Robin !.
      Will you call this one Wayne ! he has nice sumi !lol ! :yes:

      OMG. and LOL
      Wayne, I showed that bat koi to a friend of ours who shall remain nameless (:thunder:) and he asked me if it was a catfish!

      Okay. If you want him to be Wayne, he is Wayne.

      Here's the best picture of "Wayne." :)
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      :Thanks for the pics Max, That fish has a lot more yellow than I thought. Gives me some hope for my two. They started to develop color this year and now it seems to be dissapearing again

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      Quote Originally Posted by Arid View Post
      :Thanks for the pics Max, That fish has a lot more yellow than I thought. Gives me some hope for my two. They started to develop color this year and now it seems to be dissapearing again

      Aaron, I'm also confused.

      the weakly marked ki shusui that you noticed, is now picking up ki, although absolutely that last place i wanted it.

      so -- all we can get from this right now, i think, we just get to watch and try to learn.

      I hope yours do better than mine!





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      Max- These photos are always a pleasure to see. Love the color of the koi and the passion behind your project. As an FYI this thread was just highlighted on our Facebook page.



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      yes I noticed this in my Ki shusui getting more gold then dissappearing then back to a bright yellow ! simular things happen to ochibas shigure =autum leaves on water !
      ki shusui - Aya Wakabas -young leaves on water !.
      As for Wayne looks more like '' black clouds in sky '' lol but we love him ! .
      call us koi kichi or what !lol !.

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      Quote Originally Posted by jimfish98 View Post
      Max- These photos are always a pleasure to see. Love the color of the koi and the passion behind your project. As an FYI this thread was just highlighted on our Facebook page.
      Jim, That's good news!
      Spreading Ki around the world, for as Wayne says, "Ki World Dominion."
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