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six6guy
07-19-2009, 11:54 AM
I'm not sure what I can show after today until they come out of the mud on October 10th, but here is what I got.

Ai Goromo from Sakai
12" Nisai female


This one just calls to me... a bit thin but a nice big fish pattern.

Brad

powerman
07-19-2009, 01:01 PM
the shiroji is very nice....good choice...it will be interesting to see its development in the mud pond

cindy
07-19-2009, 05:39 PM
yep, I like the pattern too.

Ethan25
07-24-2009, 10:40 AM
nice wide head and mouth on that one, bud.

you did well.

rainblood
07-24-2009, 11:13 AM
I'm very interested to see how this one develops :yes:

Ethan25
07-24-2009, 11:24 AM
the sashi is really dark and thick, and I want to see what it looks like at 17"

rainblood
07-24-2009, 11:28 AM
Is this due to compression of the pic or something else :confused:

koiman1950
07-25-2009, 06:02 PM
I think, what you're seeing, is the Ai coming up through the beni. That is the beginning of the "robing" becoming visible.

six6guy
08-04-2009, 07:10 PM
That was my guess also, that we are are starting to see the robing. All I have to go on is the one picture, so not 100% sure. Maybe Russ will jump in.

Sorry for the delay reply on my part, in Singapore and working long hours.

Brad

six6guy
10-12-2009, 01:55 PM
I got home about 8:30 last night and it was already dark, so these are not the best shots. In fact I was trying to hold the flash light enough to be able to take pictures with fish in it.

My Ai Goromo went from 12" to just over 16" and is starting to show some of the robing. WOW... this a nice Goromo. :yes:


I also took two flock spawn babies as projects. A clean Benigoi and a real decent Hi Showa. There is alot of crap in this water, so you'll have to take my word that the benigoi really is a clean one. It was fun talking with all my fish friends about these babies, wonder if we will be right. These guys are not that big, but you can see the quality already. The beni looks orange at a distance, but up close the center of the scales are much deeper.... they just came out of the mud, so the beni will turn dark before long.


Brad

six6guy
10-12-2009, 01:58 PM
A few more from last night...

gander
10-12-2009, 02:01 PM
what makes that fish a Goromo and not a Kohaku?

six6guy
10-12-2009, 02:10 PM
An Ai goromo is a kohaku whose beni scales have a blue edges to them. The dark blue edges come in when they are 2, 3, or 4 years old and are called robing. The longer it takes for the robing to come is usually a good sign of how long it will stay nice.

Hope that helps. Maybe somebody can explain it better than I just did.

Brad

six6guy
10-12-2009, 02:31 PM
Here is a real nice shot taken by Jessie. I think those are Russ' hands and this is it just coming out of the mud pond. (I could be wrong on the hands).

Brad

koitv
10-12-2009, 02:52 PM
Its a nice fish. I got video of this fish. I will post those when I am done editing.

six6guy
11-28-2009, 06:01 PM
Here are some shots of this ai goromo that were taken today. I moved her to my main pond this morning, so it was a good time for some new photos...

She has some secondary beni coming in along the lateral line, more the left side that right, but both sides. I don't think this secondary beni will stay forever, but it might be there for a year or two.

On the left side you can see the robing is just starting to come in. The nose has a pock mark that happened (I think) at the Ikeage... seems to be closing up so not worried about it.

Brad

six6guy
11-28-2009, 06:18 PM
I also pictured the flock spawn babies I brought home from the Ikeage. They are staying in the QT for now. Both Dan and I snagged a couple Russelgoi and we promised to post progress pictures.

For the pending size question, the sharpie marks in my bowl are one inch apart. Just find a shot with the fish strait and marks showing, then use a scrap piece of paper to make a ruler.

This is a Hi Showa with some potential. There is a sprinkling of white on the sides that may or may not stay with this one to maturity... Hoping not, but we'll see.

Brad

six6guy
11-28-2009, 06:25 PM
This the second Russelgoi I brought home. It's either a benigoi or an Orenji (hope benigoi). It does have some white on it's side, again hoping it will fill in with age.

Brad

TODDER
11-29-2009, 01:02 AM
Brad, I was wondering if you could explain to me where the blue eye shadow come from?

I have a Platinum Ogon that has the blue eye shadow.

Russell Peters
11-29-2009, 12:07 PM
Here is a real nice shot taken by Jessie. I think those are Russ' hands and this is it just coming out of the mud pond. (I could be wrong on the hands).

Brad


Just saw this, yes those are my hands.:cool3:

powerman
11-29-2009, 12:15 PM
Brad, your aigormo is a nice fish....i want to see pictures as she grows.........those flock spawn fish...not so much........:D:.....that's ok ...i have a few fish that only a mother could love, myself.......

Russell Peters
11-29-2009, 12:34 PM
Brad, your aigormo is a nice fish....i want to see pictures as she grows.........those flock spawn fish...not so much........:D:.....that's ok ...i have a few fish that only a mother could love, myself.......


Here are some of the flock spawn I kept.:cool3:

powerman
11-29-2009, 01:54 PM
hmmm...interesting....all showa..these could turn out cool....good choices...are you going to return them to the mud

six6guy
11-29-2009, 04:30 PM
Brad, I was wondering if you could explain to me where the blue eye shadow come from?

I have a Platinum Ogon that has the blue eye shadow.

I don't know other than it comes from the patient DNA. Some types should have blue eye shadow and some should not. I have not found a good reference that lays this out and makes it clear.

Another trait that some have and some don't is the leading ray being dark (Like on Chagoi).

Maybe somebody can jump in and help us out...

Brad

TODDER
12-01-2009, 09:27 PM
:bump: For blue eye shadow:D:

Russell Peters
12-02-2009, 12:28 AM
hmmm...interesting....all showa..these could turn out cool....good choices...are you going to return them to the mud

yes, that is my plan.:yes:

six6guy
04-24-2010, 10:51 PM
I wanted to mention that this ai goromo is looking more and more like a goshiki. :yes: I'm not complaining, just making a statement. I'll attach bowl shots taken about a month ago, not the best shots but it's what I have on hand... These shots don't do her justice.

She is growing like crazy, 17 or 18 inches now, and her confirmation is looking better and better, defiantly going to be a larger one. She still has alot of secondary beni, but I have faith that it will clean up in a year or so. Her reticulation is starting to come in this spring, I expect I'll see more of it as the summer unfolds.

I'm not certain I mentioned this before, but G named this one Annette.

Brad

premster
10-27-2011, 12:26 AM
Dude those hairy hands and secondary beny :eek2:

six6guy
07-28-2012, 04:56 PM
Somebody pinged me and asked if I would update this thread... sure, but I re-homed this goshiki over a year ago. She is with close friends Ken and Jerry Becker (owner PondBiz.com) and in there lower and larger pond. I saw her not all that long ago, still growing (guessing 25" now) and still pretty darn nice. The secondary beni cleaned up on all but a small spot or two on the lower cheek/jaw area. Here is a snap of her taken 4/9/11, at the time I re-homed her.

Brad