View Full Version : Metallic Babies

06-27-2009, 01:58 AM
So a bit ago I spawned my pom pom nosed butterflies Dum Dum the kikokuryu and my butterfly platinum Valentino with my female Gin Matsuba.

The babies are in a 300 gal rubbermaid. My guess is I have somewhere between 400 and 1,000. I just built a new holding tank for them I finished the frame today which is 4x8 and 4 feet tall. Hope I get some good babies out of em. Pics tomorrow.

Here are the parents.

Dum Dum (Really old pic)






06-27-2009, 02:46 AM
looking forward to seeing the babies.
What types are there Billy?

06-27-2009, 11:38 AM
Sounds like it will be an interesting summer watching your pond(s) to see what developes in them. Keep us updated.:clap:

06-27-2009, 12:02 PM
They're all longfin. Dum Dum just had his fins melted off last year. He's a Kikokuryu, Valentino is a Platinum Ogon maybe GR? The female was a gin Matsuba.

All the babies are white so my guess is I might get. Not sure what percentage will be longfin though.

Gin matsuba.
Doitsu Platinums.
Doitsu Gin Matsuba.

06-27-2009, 12:08 PM
Good Luck, Dum Dum is a great looking fish....Bright and different, culling the babies will be difficult, i'm sure!!! can wait to see pictures....hopefully they will be better than mine(the pictures, that is!)

06-27-2009, 03:38 PM
Culling will happen by putting 100 of my favorites in the new 900+ gallon set up and then any tobies of deformed fish get chucked in with the big fish. Survivors get to stay. Everything else will chill in the 300 gal.

06-27-2009, 06:15 PM
I did that with last years mass spawn, I now have about twenty fish that survived. Some of them are quite ugly. I am going to have to drain about 10,000 gallons of water to catch them...never again!! It is hard to find homes for ugly fish!!! The Blue Heron didn't get them either, but he did try. I thought he was going to get my dog...The bird sure held his/her ground!!!

07-29-2009, 03:51 PM
Here are some fry pics. With the 100+ degree heat wave I have lost about forty babies in the last few days, but I added more bubblers and set up a cold water trickle.



07-29-2009, 05:19 PM
Been hearing about your record heat up there. We have had cooler than normal temps for Alabama.
Have you bred longfins before? I think Im going to have several that turn out to be longfin. They seem so graceful.

07-30-2009, 02:38 PM
I've been suffering through the record heat. No I've never breed longfins before, but a couple are starting to show it.

08-08-2009, 04:39 PM
They're all longfin. Dum Dum just had his fins melted off last year. .

how did his fins get melted?

08-09-2009, 06:47 PM
He lived through a bleaching of the pond and then a neighbor pesticide spray thing.

08-10-2009, 11:18 AM
sounds like a tough fish

05-31-2010, 03:06 AM
Thought I'd post updated pics of three of the fish from this hatch. Not necessarily the best three, just the three I netted from the 35 I have. These are from the half I raised indoors over the winter. Thoughts?

Fish one:

Fish two (I like this one... but curious what the non-conforming orangish scales will do as it grows?):

And fish three:

All input welcome!

06-01-2010, 09:19 AM
Now I can see them! Loving the fins on two and three, I think the orange scales are a result of some Kujaku blood. I really like the bluish hue to fish three's eyes. I think that one comes from Momma.

I have no pure platinums according to my Dad :P did you get any? Apparently Momma fish's gin matsuba blood really powered through.

06-02-2010, 12:53 PM
I don't know yet if I have any pure platinums. I think it's too soon to tell. The ones that spent the winter in the pond outside are still really small, but most of them have some grey on the back. The ones that spent the winter in the tank inside haven't lived under outside light (I'm guessing it was the sun that made a bunch of the outside ones darken?). So the inside fish are mostly a nice metallic platinum for now (a couple show some color like that second fish I posted, two have a pinkish tint at the base of the tail that might be from the food I'm feeding them, and one has a few dark rays in the tail that I'm waiting to see what happens with).

As far as size, of the forty I got from you, I kept 18 inside. 5 of those are now in the 4.5"-5.5" range, with the rest ranging down to 3". The outside fish are all between 1.5" and 2.5". They really didn't get much of a chance to grow before the fall chill hit, and my pond is still warming up to a "full-appetite" temperature.

06-02-2010, 02:13 PM
i think all 3 of them will go darker and end up lookinf like ghosties, i might be wrong though, good luck with them

06-03-2010, 09:54 AM
I don't think the first or third will end up ghost fish, just regular gin matsuba.

08-05-2010, 12:32 AM
Well... I sorted through 208 baby fish. I kept 28 I like maybe 5 or 6? The rest of the keepers my Dad likes or I thought might maybe do something cool? Big maybe... I've been selling off the rest for $2 a fish. Maybe sold 50%. Here are some pictures for Mabird. I tried to catch the keepers, but they were being brats and in a 1,000 gallon tank. I caught one...of course it's the smallest. Still figuring out how they all came out so dark...