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Ryan S.
10-16-2008, 08:28 AM
Due by Midnight Eastern Standard time on Nov 1st 2008

REQUIRED
Koiphen Handle:
Name:
SU Final length:

OPTIONAL
SU start length: (if known)
Pond Size:
Stocking Rate:
Feed Rate:
Feed type:
Water Changes:
Water Treatments:

PICTURES
[ATTACH] One showing measurement as best as possible

*to assist in picture taking you can spin fish in bowl by using one hand on head and one towards rear of body or with both hands over head/eye area gently shake back and forth several times, this will disorient fish for a few seconds for a clean shot

*something close to 400x600/600x400 pixals will be fine

Brutuscz
10-17-2008, 04:24 PM
Do we email that somewhere...or put it right in this thread?

Ryan S.
10-19-2008, 04:57 PM
Do we email that somewhere...or put it right in this thread?

POst in thread!

Brutuscz
10-20-2008, 09:45 PM
Here are mine..I can't find my other measurement picture. I'll keep looking.
Brutuscz
Bob Schwartz
finished at 11 inches & 9.25inches
Started at 7.25 and 6.75in.
Growth of 3.75in and 2.5in. as of 10/11/08
pond: 16,000gal
stocking rate...roughly 50 koi in 16,000gal
Feed 3-5times daily
Blackwater gold and blackwater max
Weekly water changes 10-30%, pond vacuumed every 1-2weeks
water treatment PP or 30% hydrogen peroxide on occasion. Trying to knock out the pea soup!!!

koiaddict
10-21-2008, 12:31 PM
REQUIRED
Koiphen Handle: Koiaddict
Name: Melissa P.
SU Final length: 10"

OPTIONAL
SU start length: 7"
Pond Size: 1600 gallon Intex QT
Stocking Rate: 7 fish
Feed Rate: 4 xs a day
Feed type: Blackwater Max
Water Changes: Weekly
Water Treatments: None

First photo- arrival
Second photo- final

maxxreebo1
10-22-2008, 11:09 AM
REQUIRED
Koiphen Handle: maxxreebo1
Name: John Anderson
SU Final length:12"

OPTIONAL
SU start length: 5.5"
Pond Size:6500
Stocking Rate:15
Feed Rate:2x daily
Feed type: Hikari Saki multi season
Water Changes:15% weekly
Water Treatments: Prime, baking soda, calcium, Koi clay

PICTURES

moussecasey
10-22-2008, 01:58 PM
REQUIRED
Koiphen Handle: moussecasey
Name: Suzanne
SU Final length: 11"

OPTIONAL
SU start length: 7"
Pond Size: 12,000
Stocking Rate: 18
Feed Rate: 3-5x daily
Feed type: Blackwater Creek Max Growth & Blackwater Creek Gold
Water Changes: 5-10% week
Water Treatments: PP as needed

pic 1 is shiro 1 on May 25, 2008
pic 2 is shiro 1 on October 12, 2008
pic 3 is shiro 2 on May 25, 2008
pic 4 is shiro 2 on October 12, 2008

colin
10-22-2008, 04:40 PM
REQUIRED
Koiphen Handle: colin
Name:colin
SU Final length:13.5"

OPTIONAL
SU start length: 5.5"
Pond Size:2000 gallons
Stocking Rate:6
Feed Rate:once a day
Feed type:Hikari
Water Changes:25% a week
Water Treatments:
pic#1 recieved
pic#2 final length
pic#3 overall fish view

koitoo
10-22-2008, 07:48 PM
REQUIRED
Koiphen Handle:koitoo
Name: TC
SU Final length:12.5", 12", and 10"

OPTIONAL
SU start length: 8", 8", and 5"
Pond Size:4000 gallons
Stocking Rate:10
Feed Rate:3X a day
Feed type:Blackwater Max
Water Changes : 5% per week
Water Treatments: None

pskorf
10-26-2008, 06:17 PM
REQUIRED
Koiphen Handle: pskorf
Name: Paul Korf
SU Final length: almost 13 inches

OPTIONAL
SU start length: (if known) 10 inches
Pond Size: 5,500 gal (water garden - 30 inch deep - no filtration)
Stocking Rate: 11
Feed Rate: tried twice a day feeding but they wouldn't really eat
Feed type: very little koi food they would never eat - mostly algae (all natural diet) - whatever they managed to find!
Water Changes: only on rainy days
Water Treatments: none

pskorf
10-26-2008, 06:18 PM
REQUIRED
Koiphen Handle: pskorf
Name: Paul Korf
SU Final length: almost 14 inches

OPTIONAL
SU start length: (if known) 9 inches
Pond Size: 5,500 gal (water garden - 30 inch deep - no filtration)
Stocking Rate: 11
Feed Rate: tried twice a day feeding but they wouldn't really eat
Feed type: very little koi food they would never eat - mostly algae (all natural diet) - whatever they managed to find!
Water Changes: only on rainy days
Water Treatments: none

Brutuscz
10-26-2008, 07:12 PM
Wow Paul...looks over 14inches!! The head is not quite at zero there. Well done!!!

pskorf
10-26-2008, 07:19 PM
Wow Paul...looks over 14inches!! The head is not quite at zero there. Well done!!!

I hope others get posting cause i am excited about all the shiro's being posted.what a group with a great future.
I would really like to see all these shiro from people over the years to come.All seem to be growing and bulking up.pattern will come and complete these koi in the future just what you want in a koi

Brutuscz
10-26-2008, 09:58 PM
What is interesting to me is how some had the sumi get lighter...and some saw it deepen and tighten up. Many different types of conformation as well. It's really a study of how different conditions can affect our koi. In my pond, sumi always deepens and tightens up. But, waiting for underlying sumi to emerge...can take forever. So..I use this to guide my purchases. I try to find koi with sumi exactly where and how I like it...knowing it will stay that way. I don't buy ones with underlying sumi...as I know it may never come up. It's always good to study these things and draw conclusions for future purchases.

ponderingkoi
10-27-2008, 12:41 PM
Koiphen Handle: Ponderingkoi
Name: Paula Higgins
SU final length: 15"
Optional
SU start length: unknown
Pond size: 3000 gallons
Stocking rate: 9 koi
Feed rate: self-feeding with Koi kichi buffet feeder
Feed type: OSI, Dianchi premium mix, shrimp, Manda Fu
Water Changes: moderate flow-through
Water Treatments: none, occ. Koi clay

Carl
10-27-2008, 01:23 PM
Koiphen Handle: Ponderingkoi
Name: Paula Higgins
SU final length: 15"
Optional
SU start length: unknown
Pond size: 3000 gallons
Stocking rate: 9 koi
Feed rate: self-feeding with Koi kichi buffet feeder
Feed type: OSI, Dianchi premium mix, shrimp, Manda Fu
Water Changes: moderate flow-through
Water Treatments: none, occ. Koi clay

Boy, that fish is a real testament to the benefits of demand feeders.

LilHoover
10-29-2008, 11:03 PM
Koiphen Handle: LilHoover
Name: Me or the Koi? I'm Gail, Koi is "Mujo". Hoover is the dog ;)
SU Final length: 12.2" or 31cm


SU start length: 6"
Pond Size: 1500 gallons
Stocking Rate: 7 koi
Feed Rate: 100 grams/day (for all 7 fish in total, not 100 g for each fish!)
Feed type: EA Show
Water Changes: 5% every 4 days
Water Treatments: 1 cup baking soda every 2 weeks

PICTURES

One month after arrival, 7.5"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/HoovB/Pond%202008/SugarLoafOneMonth3258-1.jpg

On October 29th, 2008
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/HoovB/Pond%202008/MujoOct28thDc.jpg

COMMENTS
1. I hope some of the sumi comes back. :hm:
2. Boy this little guy (gal?) was hard to catch! :headache:

ponderingkoi
10-31-2008, 10:17 AM
Is everyone waiting till the last minute? How many SU's did we start out with? Come on people, let's see some fish...

Ellie
10-31-2008, 02:56 PM
Koiphen Handle: Ellie
Name: Ellie Choate
SU Final length: 9"

OPTIONAL
SU start length: 7"
Pond Size:3040 US gallons
Stocking Rate:10 Koi
Feed Rate: 3 -4 handfuls a day
Feed type: Blackwater gold
Water Changes: 10% weekly
Water Treatments: none

esusan
10-31-2008, 07:55 PM
koiphen handle: esusan
name: Sue Boydstun
SU Final length: 11"

Optional

Beginning length: 6.5"
Pond Size: 160 gallon quarantine tank
Stocking Rate: 4
Feed: 2x -4x daily
feed type: Hikari
water changes 10 -15% weekly

pic 1 is all of the grow out fish upon arrival on May 17. I have to post it separately.
pic 2 and 3 surviving utsuri on Oct. 25

koitoo
11-01-2008, 12:02 AM
me like it a lot! Good job

Carl
11-01-2008, 09:17 PM
REQUIRED
Koiphen Handle: cppond
Name: Carl
SU Final length: 12, 10

OPTIONAL
SU start length: (if known) 7, 6
Pond Size: 1000 gallon Intex
Stocking Rate: 10 koi
Feed Rate: 3-4 times day
Feed type:
Water Changes:
Water Treatments:

I didn't bother getting good measurement pics since the koi are not in contention (and it was really difficult. :yes: )

HAMMERHEAD
11-01-2008, 09:19 PM
REQUIRED
Koiphen Handle: cppond
Name: Carl
Sanke Final length: 12, 10

OPTIONAL
Sanke start length: (if known) 7, 6
Pond Size: 1000 gallon Intex
Stocking Rate: 10 koi
Feed Rate: 3-4 times day
Feed type:
Water Changes:
Water Treatments:

I didn't bother getting good measurement pics since the koi are not in contention (and it was really difficult. :yes: )
Wow Carl..your sanke's look kinda like shiro's ;)

redhotkoi
11-01-2008, 09:28 PM
REQUIRED
Koiphen Handle: Redhotkoi
Name: Andy Hong
SU Final length: 15

SU start length: 6-1/2"
Pond Size: 7,200 gallons
Stocking Rate: 17
Feed Rate: Koi Kichi Demand Feeder
Feed type: OSI 168, Black Water Max, Micro Lift Variety Mix, Dry Silk Worms
Water Changes: 10% to 15% every week
Water Treatments: Terminate (parasite)

1st. picture taken May 10
2nd. - 4th. taken today November 1


Got good growth, BUT not very white, lost most of it's sumi, My pond doesn't do good with young sumi.

Carl
11-01-2008, 09:32 PM
Wow Carl..your sanke's look kinda like shiro's ;)

:harhar:

Gr8Koi
11-01-2008, 10:04 PM
REQUIRED
Koiphen Handle: Gr8koi
Name: Doug
SU Final length:SU #1 13 inches
SU #2 final 13.5 inches

OPTIONAL
SU start length: SU #1-- 6.5 inches
SU start lenght #2---7 inches
Pond Size: 8,000 gal
Stocking Rate: 16 fish total of 288 inches
Feed Rate:1-2 cups/day
Feed type:Wheatgerm/blackwater gold
Water Changes:minimal 5-10%/week
Water Treatments:none

SU #1 is the first set with pic 1 today and pic 2 is the start
SU #2 is the second set with pic 3 today and pic 4 is the start:yahoo:

Brutuscz
11-01-2008, 10:10 PM
Gr8koi...I really like where picture #3 is going. Looks to be a female. When it drops eggs and the head gets more white....that will be a KILLER!!!!

Gr8Koi
11-01-2008, 10:11 PM
Thank you very much I am very pleased and that one is my favorite too.