WWKC & KP Internet Koi and Goldfish Show

[Susan Reed]

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World Wide Koi Club & KoiPhen

:cheer: Announces :cheer:

2nd Annual Koi & Goldfish Show
Dec 4 -6 2009

www.wwkcinternetkoishow.com




6 Seminars with well renowned Guest Speakers
No entry fees
Raffles,
Breeders Show



Friday Dec 5th Evening Meet & Greet in Web-Chat Room with Special Guest
Saturday Dec 6th Judging & Seminars :cheer: Saturday Night 9 pm Awards
Sunday Dec 7th Seminars

:cheer: Plus more Surprises to come :cheer:


Entry Forms will be available Aug 1 2009

Deadlines: Fish entries Nov 1 2009;

The show committee has decided to not charge entry fees. There will be limit up to 8 fish per entrant. 8 koi and 8 goldfish

We will be having Raffles on items donated! Look for more details coming soon!

Breeders Show! Calling all Koi Breeders! Here's your chance to enter your prized koi and go head to head with your competition! Contact RichToyBox for more information Same show rules will apply!



When sending in your pictures please make sure you send each one in a separate email with detailed information: Variety, Size, your name and address.

[cindy]

excellent job on the site

[BruceP]

Kewl!!!!!! :d:

[tyco4357]

You did a wonderful job on the site. Looks great. Now to find some blue containers.......hmmmmm. Next have to set up a tank.........hmmmm. Well, I'm gonna try and go for it..should be a lot of fun. :cool: :D:

[Susan Reed]

:bow: Thank You

[Matt]

Nice work:yes:

[Brutuscz]

My only complaint is the measuring technique. If you are using a standard round show bowl, how do you get the koi to line up with a measurement at zero?? I take lots of koi pics...and this is really going to be a problem for most people. I would definitely recommend the honor system for measuring.

[Susan Reed]

We need the picture of the entry to be taken in a blue tub regardless! At lease with the measurement marks in the tub it should give us a close idea of the size of the fish.

All we ask is you do the best you can! :yes:

[gray cat]

:clap: :clap: :clap: Great job Susan:clap: :clap: :clap:

[tracey_shafer]

I don't see any prizes listed for gold fish winners?

[texann]

What is that? I am new to this idea, obviously. Heck, I'm new to any kind of show.

[SouthernStarr]

What is that? I am new to this idea, obviously. Heck, I'm new to any kind of show.

Here are the threads with the info - there's still time to enter:cheer:

http://koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76498
http://koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76499

[jonathan]

Qestion.....
My koi wont go whare i want them to but I know the sizes of them but you cant really see my measurement in the bowl....
Will I have to go take new pics ?:confused:

[Susan Reed]

Qestion.....
My koi wont go whare i want them to but I know the sizes of them but you cant really see my measurement in the bowl....
Will I have to go take new pics ?:confused:


Jonathan, send your pictures and if we need retakes we will notify you. :yes:

[Susan Reed]

I don't see any prizes listed for gold fish winners?



I'll get Cindy to get those posted on the top thread for you. We will be getting awards information up on the web site soon.

[jonathan]

Jonathan, send your pictures and if we need retakes we will notify you. :yes:
forgot to mention the dates on my pictures are WAY off I mean by like 2 year but they were took today :D: .
Thanks Susan
Jonathan

[Susan Reed]

forgot to mention the dates on my pictures are WAY off I mean by like 2 year but they were took today :D: .
Thanks Susan
Jonathan

Jonathan make sure you send one picture per email with size (if possible) Variety (if you know it) with your name and address.

Your very welcome hon :cool:

[jonathan]

Jonathan make sure you send one picture per email with size (if possible) Variety (if you know it) with your name and address.

Your very welcome hon :cool:
Quick qestion agan
Wouldent it be better if they judged from several photos ?:confused:

[Susan Reed]

Quick qestion agan
Wouldent it be better if they judged from several photos ?:confused:

It will take up to much space if we display 2, 3 or more pictures of the same fish. One photo should be good so when you take it make sure you get the best possible shot. That's why we said to take from nose looking at you to back from the top of the fish. Here are some examples to show you what I mean. Also it would not be a bad idea to send 2, one with size and one good one for the judge.

[jonathan]

It will take up to much space if we display 2, 3 or more pictures of the same fish. One photo should be good so when you take it make sure you get the best possible shot. That's why we said to take from nose looking at you to back from the top of the fish. Here are some examples to show you what I mean. Also it would not be a bad idea to send 2, one with size and one good one for the judge.
Ok Got it
Thanks alot Susan :yes:

[Susan Reed]

:cool:
Ok Got it
Thanks alot Susan :yes:

[Susan Reed]

I don't see any prizes listed for gold fish winners?

Goldfish Awards have now been added! :punk1:

[Aussies5]

Susan, nice job on the new page for the Virtual show.

One question: you would like the fish in the picture to have it's head at zero.

The container I use for measurements is the correct color blue, but is not an official measuring tub, much less expensive, and I have marked the inch and half inch increments but not numbered, I just figure it out by counting the inches and half inches. Will this work for virtual show?

[Susan Reed]

Susan, nice job on the new page for the Virtual show.

One question: you would like the fish in the picture to have it's head at zero.

The container I use for measurements is the correct color blue, but is not an official measuring tub, much less expensive, and I have marked the inch and half inch increments but not numbered, I just figure it out by counting the inches and half inches. Will this work for virtual show?

:yes:

[db reddragonfly]

yes very nice web page:yes:

[redza]

im from malaysia. and if i want to join? it is worldwide isnt it?
i cant seem to understand how to fill up the entry form.

[Susan Reed]

im from malaysia. and if i want to join? it is worldwide isnt it?
i cant seem to understand how to fill up the entry form.

Do you have a private messenger such as yahoo? If so I could talk you through it through using the messenger.

Susan

[redza]

I have msn messenger.

[RichToyBox]

Bump:D:

[Brutuscz]

I did a bunch of my photography today...it was brutal!!! Took about 4hrs. My pond is 16,000gal and catching them is never easy...used a seine net to help. A few questions. Besides the photo with the measurements...how many pics can we enter for each fish? Will 2-3 photos per koi help the judges get a more accurate representation of each fish? I think it would actually make the judges job easier and more accurate. They can better decide what is inherent to the koi and what is a problem with the photography. A piece of dirt can look like a shimi or a wave can make the conformation look distorted. Multiple pictures can help resolve these types of issues.

[cindy]

wow four hours of lifting?

[Brutuscz]

four hours of net, catch and photograph. Back was killing me!!! I may even need to do some over...real pain in the butt. Any opinions on the multiple photo idea?

[Susan Reed]

Brutuscz, due to space we only require 1 picture of each but if you like send you can send 3 pictures per fish. Our benching committee will choose the best out of those 3. No to your other question, 1 picture per fish please.

[Brutuscz]

Ok...sounds fine. Thanks Susan!!!

[Susan Reed]

Ok...sounds fine. Thanks Susan!!!

your Welcome :yes:

[expat]

Hello, do I have to be a member of the WWKC in order to show some fish?
Thanks Expat.

[expat]

Hello Susan it's expat again, how do i find an entry form and where do I send pics. Sorry to ask such basic questions but I hav'ent used Koiphen much!
Thanks.

[Mollie]

I will answer for her, all members of Koipen can show and you find the info here http://www.wwkcinternetkoishow.com/Directory/directory.htm

[Susan Reed]

I will answer for her, all members of Koipen can show and you find the info here http://www.wwkcinternetkoishow.com/Directory/directory.htm

Thank You Mollie :clap:

[expat]

Thank you Mollie.

[Mollie]

You are both very welcome :yes: :yes:

[expat]

There seems to be 2 schools of thought on how to measure butterfly/longfin koi, ie nose to base of tail or end of tail. Which should I use please.
Thanks.

[Susan Reed]

There seems to be 2 schools of thought on how to measure butterfly/longfin koi, ie nose to base of tail or end of tail. Which should I use please.
Thanks.

I'll make the call on this and say "Nose to end of tail"

[Rudy]

I'll make the call on this and say "Nose to end of tail"

That may be a little more difficult and may cause some fin damage.
Standard practice for lonf fin I believe is nose to tail start.

Just sayin' :shrug:

BTW, I don't have any so ...

[Susan Reed]

If you hold the fish close to the side of the measuring tub you should be able to get a good measurement without doing any damage to their fins.

[expat]

Thank you, I'll try that.

[Susan Reed]

There seems to be 2 schools of thought on how to measure butterfly/longfin koi, ie nose to base of tail or end of tail. Which should I use please.
Thanks.

Being the Chairman of this show I made the call so we will go from Nose to end of Tail. :yes: Just be-careful on how you hold her to make sure you do not damage the fins...you can also put the measurements on the bottom of the tub and get your measurement that way without touching her.

[Rudy]

Being the Chairman of this show I made the call so we will go from Nose to end of Tail. :yes: Just be-careful on how you hold her to make sure you do not damage the fins...you can also put the measurements on the bottom of the tub and get your measurement that way without touching her.


My apologies Lady Chairman :bow:. I'll keep my humble thoughts to myself. :cool3:

[Susan Reed]

My apologies Lady Chairman :bow:. I'll keep my humble thoughts to myself. :cool3:

:kiss:

[koiman1950]

Susan

One question I still don't know the answer to "for sure"! You say send ONE PHOTO per e-mail. Wouldn't you want the "size photo" and the "glamour photo" of each fish in a single e-mail?

Mike

[Susan Reed]

Susan

One question I still don't know the answer to "for sure"! You say send ONE PHOTO per e-mail. Wouldn't you want the "size photo" and the "glamour photo" of each fish in a single e-mail?

Mike

:yes:

[Funbug]

Question. My goldfish are wakin and are all pond fish. Wakin are meant to be viewed from above so is it ok to use the above view on a wakin? I'm not sure I'll be able to get it together in time to make an entry but I'd like to if I can.

[Susan Reed]

Question. My goldfish are wakin and are all pond fish. Wakin are meant to be viewed from above so is it ok to use the above view on a wakin? I'm not sure I'll be able to get it together in time to make an entry but I'd like to if I can.

Yes, you may take the picture from above :yes:

[Funbug]

:cool: thanks

[RichToyBox]

Only 7 days to get your fish registered.:cheer:

[Rudy]

Only 7 days to get your fish registered.:cheer:

Can ya get here by tomorrow and take pics while I bowl?

I was really looking forward to this, still am needless to say, but wanted to participate. Will see what happens.

BTW ... the pix/bowl is not the biggest reason I may not git er done nor is The Mom health thing. It does play in however. I think that the DW along with her DD may be moving out this week :grouphug: :clap: :yahoo: :cheer: :eek1: But I feel the need to be around as things walk out the door. Furniture don't matter but some other things are very close and important. You know. ;)

[Just Jessie]

arrrrghhhh, I can't catch the ones I want. Yikes I need to get someone over here to hold the other end of the net!

[Susan Reed]

Just wanted to pass this along to everyone...even though the website still has a limit of 5 entries you can enter up to 8! Just submit to forms! 1 for 5 and 1 for 3!

Thanks
Susan

[Brutuscz]

If you decide to up it to 10...I have 2 more to enter in a heartbeat. LOL!!! Always ready to play!!!

[pskorf]

I sent a couple koi with koiphen ties.

I was going to do a few more but think i wore out the wife and her picture taking with growout thread.

[David Smothers]

Who are the judges for the koi show?

[vipldy]

I am in:punk1: :clap:

[geraldlim]

I have a question - I just bowled some fish and took pics. Problem is in trying to get a pic with them pointing the right way, parallel to the measurement marks and at the "0" mark, and displaying the perfect top view shot all at the same time. Can we submit a measurement pic separate from the judging/display pic? Anyone have any solutions?

[geraldlim]

Also one of the 2 koi I want to enter keeps jumping out of the net (5 times!) before I can guide it into to tub. Hit itself against walls a couple of times then I got scared and quit. Suggestions?

[Susan Reed]

:cool3: dude :D:
If you decide to up it to 10...I have 2 more to enter in a heartbeat. LOL!!! Always ready to play!!!

[Susan Reed]

Who are the judges for the koi show?

Mr Philips and Dick Benbow :clap: :clap:

[Susan Reed]

I have a question - I just bowled some fish and took pics. Problem is in trying to get a pic with them pointing the right way, parallel to the measurement marks and at the "0" mark, and displaying the perfect top view shot all at the same time. Can we submit a measurement pic separate from the judging/display pic? Anyone have any solutions?

:yes: or just make note of it's size so you will know which size group to mark on the entry form.

[vipldy]

Also one of the 2 koi I want to enter keeps jumping out of the net (5 times!) before I can guide it into to tub. Hit itself against walls a couple of times then I got scared and quit. Suggestions?

Are you using a flat net? We use a reg. net to get them to the top then remove them with a sock net..No problems:no:

[Susan Reed]

Also one of the 2 koi I want to enter keeps jumping out of the net (5 times!) before I can guide it into to tub. Hit itself against walls a couple of times then I got scared and quit. Suggestions?

I will see about getting someone other than myself to help you out with this issue but you did the right thing by stopping with that one jumper...we would hate to have you loose one of your fish.

[vipldy]

We use the net only to bring them to the top so they can't jump then we use the sock net and take the fish over to bowl..

[Susan Reed]

Also what size bowl are you using? try to put just enough water in there to cover their the back....you may want to get a helper to help you with this project.

[Carl]

:yes: or just make note of it's size so you will know which size group to mark on the entry form.

So, it is not necessary to submit a perfect measurement photo?

[geraldlim]

Are you using a flat net? We use a reg. net to get them to the top then remove them with a sock net..No problems:no:

yes = flat net

[geraldlim]

Also what size bowl are you using? try to put just enough water in there to cover their the back....you may want to get a helper to help you with this project.

never makes it to the bowl - launches from the net.:no:

[Brutuscz]

:cool3: dude :D:
LOL...always gotta push my luck:yes:
Last show I entered I brought 14 koi with me. Almost brought more..lol:clap:

[Joey S]

:yes: or just make note of it's size so you will know which size group to mark on the entry form.


So, it is not necessary to submit a perfect measurement photo?I told my koi to stick their noses in the corner and flatten their tails along the side. They just didn't seem to understand. :rolleyes: So, we have one pic holding them along the tape and another 'show' pic. They just didn't want to cooperate and the pics aren't very good. Oh, well, we tried. :yes:

[geraldlim]

I told my koi to stick their noses in the corner and flatten their tails along the side. They just didn't seem to understand. :rolleyes: So, we have one pic holding them along the tape and another 'show' pic. They just didn't want to cooperate and the pics aren't very good. Oh, well, we tried. :yes:

Me too! How do those dealers get those perfect "koi show portraits"?
You know - with the pecs perfectly posed and the water surface perfectly flat in the bowl? I can't get them to keep still. Must be boy koi!:D:

Also when the backs are above the water line - the reds end up different than under the water, much brighter in the pic, especially if the sun is on it.

Should we post some of the pics on the forum or save it for the show?

[David Smothers]

Me too! How do those dealers get those perfect "koi show portraits"?
You know - with the pecs perfectly posed and the water surface perfectly flat in the bowl? I can't get them to keep still. Must be boy koi!:D:

Also when the backs are above the water line - the reds end up different than under the water, much brighter in the pic, especially if the sun is on it.

Should we post some of the pics on the forum or save it for the show?

Yep, that was my problem. Sometimes the sun was on the hi and it washes out even using a flash. Oh well, I tried. :cool3:

[sundan]

what happens when you spin around a few times, you get dizzy? Same with fish, thats when you get that great shot from a camera. So have someone spin fish around in bowl and you be ready to shoot with camera.:clap:

[Carl]

We should have a tutorial on photoing koi in a bowl. Do we have anything like that already?

[Joey S]

I think Bart gave some pointers once. The big problem is the delay with a digital camera. Unless you 'lead' the shot, you miss the good ones. Even with a cloudy day, we still had lots of glare. You need a real camera with a polarizing lense.

[geraldlim]

what happens when you spin around a few times, you get dizzy? Same with fish, thats when you get that great shot from a camera. So have someone spin fish around in bowl and you be ready to shoot with camera.:clap:

Ahhhh sooo!
I have seen breeders and dealers spin them around before picking them up on KOIFIXX. Thanks!

[Susan Reed]

So, it is not necessary to submit a perfect measurement photo?

we would like to have that Carl but for some of the people who have never did this before, have a hard time getting that picture if they are by themselves. We will accept their near perfect picture ;) I would hate to have someone loose one of their fish doing this process. :no:

[Susan Reed]

LOL...always gotta push my luck:yes:
Last show I entered I brought 14 koi with me. Almost brought more..lol:clap:

Sounds like me ;)

[Susan Reed]

Me too! How do those dealers get those perfect "koi show portraits"?
You know - with the pecs perfectly posed and the water surface perfectly flat in the bowl? I can't get them to keep still. Must be boy koi!:D:

Also when the backs are above the water line - the reds end up different than under the water, much brighter in the pic, especially if the sun is on it.

Should we post some of the pics on the forum or save it for the show?

save for show ;)

[Susan Reed]

This show itself will be a great learning tool for some of you beginners and some who have shown but never bowled and measured! I hope that we can have more who have done this to give their thoughts and hints on how to do this process!

I know when we were in Greenville, I had Brady take the picture of our Sanke. He took time and waited on that koi to get the right picture. All I can say is Patience is the key in getting a good picture. :clap:

[Brady Brandwood]

Yes definitely, patience is key, and keeping a calm, low stress environment, so the Koi will relax and swim casually, rather than darting around like in a flight response. Using a square or rectangular tub helps too, so the Koi doesn't swim around in circles. If you have glare on the water, you can use a black card above the fish, and use the camera's flash. Also, keeping the water level a few inches above the Koi will help eliminate ripples and splashes in the pic.

Sit calmly and wait for the right pose to come to you.

Best Wishes,
Brady

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[Susan Reed]

Thanks Brady :bow: :bow: :bow:

[Carl]

we would like to have that Carl but for some of the people who have never did this before, have a hard time getting that picture if they are by themselves. We will accept their near perfect picture ;) I would hate to have someone loose one of their fish doing this process. :no:

That makes sense. :yes:

[Zac Penn]

For me it is patiance and taking a ton of pictures! Also make sure you have the flash on and set the shutter speed as fast as possible. This will keep your photos from being burry. If it is cloudy, bring them under cover to keep the glare down. If it is a clear blue sky then you will be better off outdoors.

As for the fish jumping out of the net...You can usually tell which fish are going to jump a head of time. If they are skiddish and start to back up, then watch out b/c they are about to jump. Just stay calm, move slowly, and use as big of a net as you can. I still use my 31" net on fish that are 4-5".

Good luck everyone,
Zac

[geraldlim]

All these tips from you "pros" are REALLY helpful! Thanks!
I will try again. For my jumper I will try a regular net, if I can get him into it. If not, it's not worth hurting it for a show (DW chastised me for endangering the fish for my ego). But it's not really about ego - it is a learning opportunity:yes:

[Susan Reed]

All these tips from you "pros" are REALLY helpful! Thanks!
I will try again. For my jumper I will try a regular net, if I can get him into it. If not, it's not worth hurting it for a show (DW chastised me for endangering the fish for my ego). But it's not really about ego - it is a learning opportunity:yes:

:yes:

[Susan Reed]

For me it is patiance and taking a ton of pictures! Also make sure you have the flash on and set the shutter speed as fast as possible. This will keep your photos from being burry. If it is cloudy, bring them under cover to keep the glare down. If it is a clear blue sky then you will be better off outdoors.

As for the fish jumping out of the net...You can usually tell which fish are going to jump a head of time. If they are skiddish and start to back up, then watch out b/c they are about to jump. Just stay calm, move slowly, and use as big of a net as you can. I still use my 31" net on fish that are 4-5".

Good luck everyone,
Zac

Thanks Zac :punk1:

[Carl]

Susan

I understand the deadline for submitting pics is Nov 1, but does that mean we have to have them in BEFORE Nov 1 or that we have until midnight on Nov 1 to submit?

[Susan Reed]

You will have until midnight on Nov 1 to submit your entry! We may extend the date to Nov 2 since that will be on a Sunday night! :cheer:


Susan

I understand the deadline for submitting pics is Nov 1, but does that mean we have to have them in BEFORE Nov 1 or that we have until midnight on Nov 1 to submit?

[Carl]

You will have until midnight on Nov 1 to submit your entry! We may extend the date to Nov 2 since that will be on a Sunday night! :cheer:

That would be great. I am sure that people would appreciate having the entire weekend to get it done. :yes:

[Susan Reed]

That would be great. I am sure that people would appreciate having the entire weekend to get it done. :yes::yes:

[fishbone]

OK I mailed my 4 pics of my 1 fish. I hope they are good enough.
How will we know you got the pics?
Thanks for the show!!!!!!

JP

[fishbone]

well I goofed and sent them all in 1 email....please pm me .

[Joey S]

well I goofed and sent them all in 1 email....please pm me .
That won't be a problem. Did you fill out the registration form?

[Aussies5]

After the closing date for pictures, when will they be posted to the show for all to see? Before the show date or on the show date.

Susan, after the closing date can you update how many entries were received, just curious.

[fishbone]

That won't be a problem. Did you fill out the registration form?

I just filled it out . It took a few minutes to find what to click on but Igot it.

[Joey S]

I just filled it out . It took a few minutes to find what to click on but Igot it.
I haven't seen your entry. Are you sure you filled it out and submitted?

Times running out...get those pics and enter ASAP

[geraldlim]

Joey,
did you get mine? I just sent it in.
Gerald

[Joey S]

Joey,
did you get mine? I just sent it in.
GeraldGot it...you should get a confirmation email. Don't forget the pics. I don't get a copy of pics so I can't confirm.

[fishbone]

I haven't seen your entry. Are you sure you filled it out and submitted?

Times running out...get those pics and enter ASAP


Are ya sure?
I checked my email from yesterday and did receive confirmation. see below...

Thank you for participating in this groundbreaking event. You have been
registered.

[geraldlim]

OK - managed to catch my 2nd fish (the "Jumper") with a regular net and got the pics. Sent it in.:yahoo: :yahoo:
I'm set! Wish the sun was more overhead - reds are so much brighter in the sun. But my tub is too deep to allow the angled sunlight all the way into the bottom of the tub. Oh well.

[RichToyBox]

Less than 5 hours remaining. GitRDone.:clap: :clap:

[Aussies5]

No one answered my post on this thread about when we will be able to see all the fish that are entered.

Also, will we get the count of how many entered in the next few days?

[Susan Reed]

No one answered my post on this thread about when we will be able to see all the fish that are entered.

Also, will we get the count of how many entered in the next few days?

Sorry hon, I have been very busy this weekend. I'm working on getting all the entries grouped and ready for the judging. We will have the tanks open for viewing sometime in the next 2 weeks. We will also have a count as to how many we have entered soon. Bear with us right now because we do have a lot going on behind the scenes. ;)

[Susan Reed]

Are ya sure?
I checked my email from yesterday and did receive confirmation. see below...

Thank you for participating in this groundbreaking event. You have been
registered.

I have your entry form but no pictures yet :confused:

[Susan Reed]

I need these people to please forward me their koi pictures for their entrys please. I have your forms just not your pictures :)


gcuss
fishbone

Thanks
Susan

[koiman1950]

I need these people to please forward me their koi pictures for their entrys please. I have your forms just not your pictures :)


gcuss
fishbone

Thanks
Susan

Here's hoping you got my pics. I have problems with Outlook Express, so I sent them with my Yahoo account. I got the confirmation that I'm entered. Please let me know you got my pics - It took me the last 4 hours to get this all done!

Thanks

Mike

[Susan Reed]

Here's hoping you got my pics. I have problems with Outlook Express, so I sent them with my Yahoo account. I got the confirmation that I'm entered. Please let me know you got my pics - It took me the last 4 hours to get this all done!

Thanks

Mike

got your pictures hon but now I need you to do another entry form for that last grouping please.

Thanks
Susan

[koiman1950]

got your pictures hon but now I need you to do another entry form for that last grouping please.

Thanks
Susan

Okay, sorry. Can I use my same name?

[Susan Reed]

Okay, sorry. Can I use my same name?

:yes:

[koiman1950]

:yes:

It's on it's way!

Thanks

Mike

[koiman1950]

Okay, I got the second reply. Sorry I messed you up on the first two forms. They should both be the same though. BTW, the second fish entry should be under Hikari Moyo for the Beni Kikokoryu

Mike

[Susan Reed]

Okay, I got the second reply. Sorry I messed you up on the first two forms. They should both be the same though. BTW, the second fish entry should be under Hikari Moyo for the Beni Kikokoryu

Mike

your all set now! :cheer:

[RichToyBox]

Less than 3 hours to go. Git R Done.

[koiman1950]

your all set now! :cheer:

Thank you ma'am!!:D: :cool: :yahoo: ;)

[Susan Reed]

Thank you ma'am!!:D: :cool: :yahoo: ;)

Your very welcome hon :bow:

[fishbone]

I'll try sending pics again. I'm using aol mail and not outlook.

[Susan Reed]

Ok Folks....I am presently working on getting the Show Tanks loaded up on the show website with your koi entries :cheer: Word of caution, please do not talk about which tank is yours here on KP untill after judging has been done! We will inform you when that has been completed. After judging has been done I will add your name to your show tank! :punk1:

After I have completed all koi show tanks I will then start work on getting up the Goldfish tanks!

Thanks
Susan

[vipldy]

WTG Susan:clap: :punk1: :cheer:

[pskorf]

careful,do not put to many fish in 1 tank because i did not fast mine for a week, so water quality might not be to good by the time dec.comes around.

[Susan Reed]

careful,do not put to many fish in 1 tank because i did not fast mine for a week, so water quality might not be to good by the time dec.comes around.

:D:

[Susan Reed]

WTG Susan:clap: :punk1: :cheer:

thanks Marie :bow:

[Rudy]

Well now that things have settled down here just a tad I figure I can pull mine in the next few days. :rolleyes: ;)

I just feel terrible that I missed this one. So many did such a good job with this and a ton of hard work that isn't even over. A big :clap: :bow: to all and specially Susan :wtg:

If I don't kill 'em they will be here next time around, I mean sooner or later the drama has to end :confused:

Waiting to see koi :D: Good luck to all and while there may be winners none of you have a looser.

Some one tell me to shut up already.

Later :cool3:

[Mollie]

Well I vote if Rudy gets a chance to photo lets let his in :yes: :yes:

[Rudy]

Well I vote if Rudy gets a chance to photo lets let his in :yes: :yes:


Thanks hon but not this time. I think I put some kind of smilie there to ward off bad people like you ;) :hug: from making that suggestion.
Stuff happens in every persons life and the rest of the world does not stop because of it. That would be totally unfair to others.

I'm good :punk1: . But I thank you for that thought. :yes:

[Mollie]

Your welcome Rudy luv ya :Kiss of love:

[David Smothers]

Great idea with the show tanks! Very nice way for all to preview the koi.:clap:

[Susan Reed]

I have all show tanks up and loaded now except for 3! Still waiting on them to forward their pictures. Friday will be the deadline to get those in to me! I would like to ask that everyone who entered fish to please go and find your tank and check to make sure I have your fish and that I have the correct variety on them. If there isn't a name or you do not find your tank contact me via PM and we'll work to get it fixed!

I will work on getting the Goldfish up in the next day or so!

Then we will begin working on getting our vendors uploaded with their goodies but those pages will not be displayed till the week of the show! If you have items to add to the raffle please contact SouthernStar and she will give you the information on how to submit!

We still accepting vendors for this show :punk1: Contact SouthernStar or go to our website for the vendor entry form!


Thanks
Susan

[fishbone]

Thanks .. Awesome job ! That's a lot of nice looking koi.

[Mollie]

I agree many lookers there :cool:

[Susan Reed]

Goldfish have been added! :cheer:

Time for Happy Hour :D:

[Mollie]

:wee_hee: :wee_hee:

[pskorf]

is anyone else not getting a few tanks to load pics?
not through all yet but #16 none there but the red X and shiro or first pic in #20.(that is all i am up to so far.)

[vipldy]

is anyone else not getting a few tanks to load pics?
not through all yet but #16 none there but the red X and shiro or first pic in #20.(that is all i am up to so far.)
Yes some red x's...

[Susan Reed]

is anyone else not getting a few tanks to load pics?
not through all yet but #16 none there but the red X and shiro or first pic in #20.(that is all i am up to so far.)

Fixed :cheer:

[pskorf]

Fixed :cheer:

I can see clearly now ..........

[Aussies5]

OK, I guess I will have to ask, how do you see the show tanks? I have gone back in this thread to try to find the link but can't find one.

Please post a link for dummies like me.

Thanks.

[Susan Reed]

OK, I guess I will have to ask, how do you see the show tanks? I have gone back in this thread to try to find the link but can't find one.

Please post a link for dummies like me.

Thanks.

http://www.wwkcinternetkoishow.com/Directory/directory.htm

got to bottom and you will see the show tank icon for koi on the right and goldfish bowl icon on the left

[geraldlim]

Maybe we can put a link to the Virtual Koi Show on the Main Forum homepage. There is no easily found link to the show on Koiphen.

[Brutuscz]

What an awesome way to run the show!!! I really like the show tank layout. Excellent job to all those involved..Thank you!!!

[Aussies5]

Susan, thanks for the link.

I did not have time to look through all of them tonight, will look at more tomorrow. Some really nice fish have been entered. I would not want to be the judges.

Did I read the rules wrong or were the pictures to be taken in a blue bowl?

[Susan Reed]

Susan, thanks for the link.

I did not have time to look through all of them tonight, will look at more tomorrow. Some really nice fish have been entered. I would not want to be the judges.

Did I read the rules wrong or were the pictures to be taken in a blue bowl?

yes or they could be taken at a recent koi show but the show had to be in the last 3 months!

[Susan Reed]

Listen up Friends...I have had several members contact me asking for an extention....SO.......I will give you till the end of this week, Friday Nov. 7th which will be the very last extension date to get your entries in to me for this show. So here's your chance if you still want to be entered into this show! :yahoo: :cheer: :clap:

[Aussies5]

Susan, I don't know who is helping with posting the fish in the show tanks but I was wondering if they could make the fish bigger by cropping or ???

There are some nice fish but the fish in the picture is so small that it is hard to tell about markings, etc.

I imagine some are larger because that is the way they were submitted but for the judges to see the fish fairly, shouldn't they all be that way.

Not complaining, you are doing a great job, just suggestions.

At this time are tanks #29, 30, 31 and 32 empty because I could not get any picture to come up in those?

[Susan Reed]

Susan, I don't know who is helping with posting the fish in the show tanks but I was wondering if they could make the fish bigger by cropping or ???

There are some nice fish but the fish in the picture is so small that it is hard to tell about markings, etc.

I imagine some are larger because that is the way they were submitted but for the judges to see the fish fairly, shouldn't they all be that way.

Not complaining, you are doing a great job, just suggestions.

At this time are tanks #29, 30, 31 and 32 empty because I could not get any picture to come up in those? That's because there are no fish in those tanks ;)

I'll do what I can with the sizes but I also need to keep them at a size that will make them easy to be downloaded.

[geraldlim]

Susan, I don't know who is helping with posting the fish in the show tanks but I was wondering if they could make the fish bigger by cropping or ???

There are some nice fish but the fish in the picture is so small that it is hard to tell about markings, etc.

I imagine some are larger because that is the way they were submitted but for the judges to see the fish fairly, shouldn't they all be that way.


I am able to zoom in on the pics on my browser (Firefox), and the resolution is pretty high. I don't know if other browsers can do the same?

[geraldlim]

Is there a breeder category for the show? I could not find it.

[Susan Reed]

Is there a breeder category for the show? I could not find it.

We did not have any that submitted so we cancelled that category :no:

[Joey S]

The judges will be getting all the original pics. Sorry about sizes in the tanks. Susan is doing a great job getting all the fish into tanks. She/we had to work with what was submitted. :D:

[geraldlim]

We did not have any that submitted so we cancelled that category :no:

Bummer!:no: :no: I was sooooo looking forward to that category. Can we ask all the local breeders to enter and set a new deadline if they are willing?:yes: :yes:

[Carl]

Bummer!:no: :no: I was sooooo looking forward to that category. Can we ask all the local breeders to enter and set a new deadline if they are willing?:yes: :yes:

I don't think we have enough breeders who could/would participate for that to work. Some day I'd like to see a special "Open GC Class" where anyone can compete with their best koi, whether professional or amateur. :yes:

[Shorty]

Doing a great job with the show so far !!

Of all the people I know locally that show koi, each of them have within their collection a complete mutt koi which they dearly love, would never part with, but also would never be able to compete with it.

Got me thinking --- wouldn't it be neat to have a different "redneck koi" category each year? A general description would be made up in lay terms of what is most desirable / least desirable for that year's redneck category, and people could enter whatever fish they wanted. The judges read the description and make their judgements based on how they interpret the description.

The key to making this a fun category is to have the desirable traits to be something that many different types of koi could have. Below are just some ideas off the top of my head, I bet if this became a real possibility for the show, the creative minds here at Koiphen could come up with some real screamers.

"Recognizable Pattern"
The koi exhibits a pattern or spot which looks like something, and the owner submits a short explanation of what the pattern is. Example - saw a message a week or so ago about a tancho showa, and the head pattern looked like the outline of the state of Iowa. Or possibly a splotch would look like a UFO.

"Super Tanker Mutt Monster"
The koi must be considered by the judges to be un-showable, or atleast a longshot for winning a conventional category at a koi show. The longest length (including fins) wins. If there are 2 koi which appear to be the same length, then the one with the least desirable show traits wins.

"Sneezer"
Any koi with a pattern which looks like the owner was drinking paint, and accidentally sneezed all over the koi. The favored trait is the most number of individual unconnected spots shown in a single photograph.

"Box of Crayons, In the Dryer"
As if your koi was put in a clothes dryer with a box of crayons, and every color in the box got it's turn making a mark on your koi. Preferred is the koi with the greatest diversity in color shown in a single photograph. The colors don't have to be spots or patterns, they can be smeared colors.

"Mutt Grow Out Contest"
Entrants are to acquire a new koi from any source, with a purchase price of $20 or less, with a body length of 6" or less overall including fins. Koi born from the owner's spawns are considered free. A photograph is submitted for that year's show, and then the entrants submit a photograph in the next annual show. The longest koi (length including fins) is the winner. If two appear to the be the same size, the one with the least desirable show pattern wins.


Thanks
Shorty

[Susan Reed]

Doing a great job with the show so far !!

Of all the people I know locally that show koi, each of them have within their collection a complete mutt koi which they dearly love, would never part with, but also would never be able to compete with it.

Got me thinking --- wouldn't it be neat to have a different "redneck koi" category each year? A general description would be made up in lay terms of what is most desirable / least desirable for that year's redneck category, and people could enter whatever fish they wanted. The judges read the description and make their judgements based on how they interpret the description.

The key to making this a fun category is to have the desirable traits to be something that many different types of koi could have. Below are just some ideas off the top of my head, I bet if this became a real possibility for the show, the creative minds here at Koiphen could come up with some real screamers.

"Recognizable Pattern"
The koi exhibits a pattern or spot which looks like something, and the owner submits a short explanation of what the pattern is. Example - saw a message a week or so ago about a tancho showa, and the head pattern looked like the outline of the state of Iowa. Or possibly a splotch would look like a UFO.

"Super Tanker Mutt Monster"
The koi must be considered by the judges to be un-showable, or atleast a longshot for winning a conventional category at a koi show. The longest length (including fins) wins. If there are 2 koi which appear to be the same length, then the one with the least desirable show traits wins.

"Sneezer"
Any koi with a pattern which looks like the owner was drinking paint, and accidentally sneezed all over the koi. The favored trait is the most number of individual unconnected spots shown in a single photograph.

"Box of Crayons, In the Dryer"
As if your koi was put in a clothes dryer with a box of crayons, and every color in the box got it's turn making a mark on your koi. Preferred is the koi with the greatest diversity in color shown in a single photograph. The colors don't have to be spots or patterns, they can be smeared colors.

"Mutt Grow Out Contest"
Entrants are to acquire a new koi from any source, with a purchase price of $20 or less, with a body length of 6" or less overall including fins. Koi born from the owner's spawns are considered free. A photograph is submitted for that year's show, and then the entrants submit a photograph in the next annual show. The longest koi (length including fins) is the winner. If two appear to the be the same size, the one with the least desirable show pattern wins.


Thanks
Shorty

You have some "Great Ideas" Shorty :cool: :cool:

[Susan Reed]

OK Folks, Entries have now been closed for this year's show! Speaking for the Show Committee I would like to Thank each and everyone of you that did enter your jewels in this one of a kind show! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

We wish you the best of luck!

Judging will begin within the next week and run for the following 2 weeks. As soon as the judging has ended I will at that time put the owners name on their tanks! We will announce the winners on Saturday Dec 6 in the "online chat room" located on the show website starting at 8 pm. eastern standard time!

Please do not forget about the Raffles, Show Pins, Seminars and especially our Featured Vendors Specials!

[tyco4357]

I like that idea too Shorty.

[Hirogoi]

Goldie is gonna rock those redneck categories!

There should also be a Crapagoi contest for which fish is just all around ugliest.

[koiman1950]

Looks like we picked up two more entrants due to the extension. Great! I want to wish everyone good luck and may the BEST FISH/PERSON win!

Mike

[David Smothers]

What was the final number of entries?

[Susan Reed]

What was the final number of entries?

I'll get back to you on that ;)

[koiman1950]

From what I could see, the last entrant #'d his fish and the last one was #'d 244. That's a very decent size show. Great job all involved.

Mike

[David Smothers]

From what I could see, the last entrant #'d his fish and the last one was #'d 244. That's a very decent size show. Great job all involved.

Mike

The IDed number doesn't represent the number entered...not sure what it does represent. I counted 138.:cool3: Still a fun and easy way to show koi. Thanks for putting on the Show!

[Susan Reed]

The numbers you see are the koi ID numbers for the judges :)

[Susan Reed]

Ok, Update.....Benching is finally finished :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

A Big Thank You goes out to Bart (Hammerhead) and RyanS for doing an excellent job :bow: :bow: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

In the next week we will begin the judging :cheer: :cheer:

[Susan Reed]

UPDATE:

We now have the "live" Chat Room up and loaded! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

[GloriaL]

Susan is there a link on the club site to the internet show? I am having a hard time finding it. Would be nice to "advertise" on our own site!

[geraldlim]

Susan is there a link on the club site to the internet show? I am having a hard time finding it. Would be nice to "advertise" on our own site!

Yes, what Gloria said.

[geraldlim]

Ok, Update.....Benching is finally finished :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

A Big Thank You goes out to Bart (Hammerhead) and RyanS for doing an excellent job :bow: :bow: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

In the next week we will begin the judging :cheer: :cheer:

Are the size categories complete? Not all the size 5 fish seem to be there.

[pskorf]

just looked through the varieties.
love how you did it to show people how a sanke or any other variety can be different "looks".

but something i noticed(believe me would not want the job of sorting)

but also depends how the owner wanted them entered
hikari muji-koi #245 would they want as a longfin?

also something interesting is having a doitsu class and then wondering about in the hakari moyo variety koi 259 and 330.they would fit in both.did the owner choose what variety class they wanted in or was all doitsu suppose to be in doitsu class?

i think there are a bunch of koi missing from size class also.

[Susan Reed]

Susan is there a link on the club site to the internet show? I am having a hard time finding it. Would be nice to "advertise" on our own site!

Carl is working on it ;) but the here's the link www.wwkcinternetkoishow.com

[Susan Reed]

Are the size categories complete? Not all the size 5 fish seem to be there.


well, at the time that was posted I had thought I was done but guess again :rolleyes: in order to make it as easy as we could for our distinguished judges I went a step further in breaking the show down even further. I'm half way though the sizes and hopefully will finish that part today. Bart and Ryan have been going behind me making sure we have all fish where they should be. :D:

[geraldlim]

Thanks for doing a great job, guys and gals!

[Carl]

Susan is there a link on the club site to the internet show? I am having a hard time finding it. Would be nice to "advertise" on our own site!

It's in the masthead now. :yes:

[geraldlim]

Yay! Great job!

[Susan Reed]

It's in the masthead now. :yes:

Thank You :cheer: :cheer: :yahoo: :yahoo:

[Susan Reed]

Let the Judging begin :punk1:

[GloriaL]

Yes Thank You Susan and Carl! I love looking. Maybe next year life will setle down and I can take pictures and enter.

[Prelude]

Tank 7 for goldfish are not wakins, they are comet/sarassas

[Susan Reed]

We go with what our Judges class them as....sorry for the confusion.



Tank 7 for goldfish are not wakins, they are comet/sarassas

[RichToyBox]

They were judged as Comet/Shubunkin class.

[Mollie]

Is there gonna be 1st 2nd 3rd places in the different classes of koi and goldfish or just one winner from each?

[Susan Reed]

Is there gonna be 1st 2nd 3rd places in the different classes of koi and goldfish or just one winner from each?

:yes: to 1st 2nd 3rd places

[Joey S]

First Seminar getting underway...get your email invite to Cindy's Bug Show and sign in.

[David Smothers]

The show link is broken.:cool3:

[jonathan]

2 qestions

1 when are pixs due one thread says nov 1st another nov 10th?

2 Can I go ahead and submit my koi now and later add on koi ?

[Susan Reed]

2 qestions

1 when are pixs due one thread says nov 1st another nov 10th? Nov 10th will be the deadline date for entries

2 Can I go ahead and submit my koi now and later add on koi ? yes up to Nov 10th


Jonathan, the new site should be up by the end of this week if not sooner....

[Ronnie]

nice event...:D

[David Smothers]

Just took time to walk thru the tanks. Very nice bunch of koi! I feel for the judges:yo:

[Susan Reed]

Just took time to walk thru the tanks. Very nice bunch of koi! I feel for the judges:yo:

speaking of judges...they be in the ring doing their thing ;)


This show keeps getting bigger each year :clap:

[David Smothers]

speaking of judges...they be in the ring doing their thing ;)


This show keeps getting bigger each year :clap:

It's about time Bart does somethin'.....:cool3:

[Susan Reed]

It's about time Bart does somethin'.....:cool3:

:yes:

[RichToyBox]

Yeah, but he is working me hard. I think he is trying to get it all done tonight.

[afertuna]

Strange question but how do you do the winners for the show do we know before the actual awards ceremony.This is my first time doing the show

[Joey S]

Just like any other show...gotta wait on the judges to do their thing. Ribbons will be placed on the tanks...winners will be announced...I'm sure folks will be talkin' up their favorites...time to start thinking about the people's choice awards.

[koiaddict]

Will we be able to view all competitors by class so that we can see the competition side by side?

[Susan Reed]

Strange question but how do you do the winners for the show do we know before the actual awards ceremony.This is my first time doing the show

Winners will be announced on Saturday Dec 5th starting at 8:30 pm est in the online chat room.

[RichToyBox]

Will we be able to view all competitors by class so that we can see the competition side by side?

No. It will be like at a normal live show, the fish will be in their tank for viewing, and if you want to compare, you have to do the walking. :harhar:

[koiaddict]

its hard to go back n forth.

dang it

However, perhaps it could be an option next year?

[afertuna]

AHHHHH the suspense is killing me!!!!! Dec 5th is soooooo far away LOL!!!:eek1:

[David Smothers]

One more week...unfortunately I will be at a family wedding all weekend so I will miss the festivities. Best of luck to everyone!!

[Carl]

its hard to go back n forth.

dang it

However, perhaps it could be an option next year?


Yes. We intend to continue to improve the interface every year, and I think it would be great if we could have a "side by side" viewing option.

[RichToyBox]

One more week...unfortunately I will be at a family wedding all weekend so I will miss the festivities. Best of luck to everyone!!

I'm sorry David. That is just not a good enough excuse. You know KoiPhen and WWKC come first.:D:

[David Smothers]

I'm sorry David. That is just not a good enough excuse. You know KoiPhen and WWKC come first.:D:

Trust me, I would rather be at the SHow!