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    Thread: Phoam Phraxionator part Deux

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      Great thread Ethan! Everytime I start to consider making a FF DG rolls her eyes at me. I don't know how you get away with it !!

      On a serious note, is your water soft? I have very hard water here and am not sure that I'll get much foam.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ethan25 View Post
      step three, figure out whether I should do a counter current phoam phraxionator or a trickle tower style phoam phraxionator. Important thing is to hide from dear wife, as she despises PVC in all forms.
      I know that one all too well my swears she is gonna buy stock in pvc
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      Quote Originally Posted by Sigma Koi View Post
      Great thread Ethan! Everytime I start to consider making a FF DG rolls her eyes at me. I don't know how you get away with it !!

      On a serious note, is your water soft? I have very hard water here and am not sure that I'll get much foam.

      ~Raymond.


      my wife is on a 10 day business trip. that;s the only way it could happen!

      My water is somewhat soft, I guess. you may struggle with getting foam. do you have plants in the pond? if not, then it may be reasonable to have a .01% salt concentration maintained.
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      No plants... just fish. How much improvement would I get by maintaining 0.01% salt? I'm pretty sure I can get foam on my QT bc it shows up at the base of my shower return, but that's probably due to the overstocking condition right now. I don't want to maintain that level just to produce foam... Do you think it is possible to build a small scale version of yours to test foam production capability?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sigma Koi View Post
      No plants... just fish. How much improvement would I get by maintaining 0.01% salt? I'm pretty sure I can get foam on my QT bc it shows up at the base of my shower return, but that's probably due to the overstocking condition right now. I don't want to maintain that level just to produce foam... Do you think it is possible to build a small scale version of yours to test foam production capability?
      you don't even have to glue the pieces really to get an idea of whether you will get foam. dry fit the pieces snuggly, and then see what happens. then, if you are gettting the results you want, glue them. It may leak slightly when you test it for an hour or so, but keep an eye on it, and see what you get.

      I got phoam again. 3rd or 4th day in a row. I had phoam all afternoon yesterday. It never stopped. It slowed, but never stopped.

      I am making one of these for a member here who asked for me to make one.
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      video in action.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvIYaHiieAQ

      with narration.
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      Great video! I swear I am going to have to do one of these.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn View Post
      Great video! I swear I am going to have to do one of these.
      you have phoam?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ethan25 View Post
      you have phoam?
      Heavens yes! More phoam than I can to admit. I'm scouring your build to figure out if I can do one of these.
      How many bio balls did you need?

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      well, I woke up this morning to a quite a surprise.


































      a lot of phoam.
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      Ethel - what is different btwn this one and the first one you built?
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      Quote Originally Posted by rainblood View Post
      Ethel - what is different btwn this one and the first one you built?
      larger pipe used on both the water column and the base where water settles and bubbles settle out. This means longer dwell time. Just like settling out solids with a settlement chamber, the bubbles need a short time, enough to settle UP and out.

      I used a ball valve on the end to adjust height of water in the base, which permits me to adjust flow, a tad, but more importantly, the height of the water. Before I just had a swivel pipe that moved up and down, and that was ineffective.
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      Hows your water clarity?
      good, except its green because my UV went out and I get a lot of full sun. new bulb should come today. Nitrates and nitrite are almost zero. Never had that.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ethan25 View Post
      larger pipe used on both the water column and the base where water settles and bubbles settle out. This means longer dwell time. Just like settling out solids with a settlement chamber, the bubbles need a short time, enough to settle UP and out.

      I used a ball valve on the end to adjust height of water in the base, which permits me to adjust flow, a tad, but more importantly, the height of the water. Before I just had a swivel pipe that moved up and down, and that was ineffective.
      Thats the only difference?
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      larger pipe everywhere combined with the ball valve at teh end makes the difference.
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      Very nice Ethan

      You should paint it before the DW comes home and she might not notice

      The nicest DIY Clarity unit I've seen


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      This is really a great thread, Ethan. I really appreciate all the photos and descriptive details you have provided of the construction -- I learn a lot in this way.

      A few follow-up questions:

      1. Am I correct that all the bubbles are being produced from the mechanical action of the water splashing down past those bioballs? In other words, you are not also injecting air into the water; is that correct?

      2. I gather that most folks do not run these things (phoam phractionators) continuously -- How long, and how often would someone typically run one of these?

      3. How problematic is the presence of hard water to the making of the foam?

      Thanks for any additional insights.

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