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    Thread: 10 Inch Shiro Utsuri

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      10 Inch Shiro Utsuri

      Hes just over 1 year old. I have pictures of him much smaller but want opinions on his current looks.

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      So, based on the fins, this is actually a shiro bekko, not a shiro utsuri. It does not have motogoro. This is a pond grade fish. He looks good though.

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      I agree, Bekko, not Utsuri. It's not just the image of the pec fins with tejime, it's the look of the sumi as well.
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      Quote Originally Posted by koiman1950 View Post
      I agree, Bekko, not Utsuri. It's not just the image of the pec fins with tejime, it's the look of the sumi as well.
      This koi use to have a red spot in its head, which is why I said shiro as it was once a tancho showa. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't bekkos white with black? And showas as are black with white and red?

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      I also thought bekkos didn't have black on their heads?

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      Pattern and type are two different things. A good bekko should not have sumi on the head, just like sanke. But if they do it doesn't make them a different type of koi. It's really the type of sumi that tells you the type of koi. It takes a while to recognize but the easiest way is by looking at how the sumi develops on the fins. If it has stripes it is a bekko or a sanke. If it is condensed near the body like a semi circle, it's a shiro or showa.

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      Quote Originally Posted by KOIAndrew View Post
      This koi use to have a red spot in its head, which is why I said shiro as it was once a tancho showa. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't bekkos white with black? And showas as are black with white and red?
      A red spot on the head doesn't make it a Tancho Showa automatically. It could also be a Tancho Sanke which is what this one would have been with the red spot only on the forehead.

      Yes, Bekkos base color is white with black markings and a Shiro Utsuri is a black fish with white markings, just the opposite.
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      Quote Originally Posted by inazuma28 View Post
      Pattern and type are two different things. A good bekko should not have sumi on the head, just like sanke. But if they do it doesn't make them a different type of koi. It's really the type of sumi that tells you the type of koi. It takes a while to recognize but the easiest way is by looking at how the sumi develops on the fins. If it has stripes it is a bekko or a sanke. If it is condensed near the body like a semi circle, it's a shiro or showa.
      Quote Originally Posted by koiman1950 View Post
      A red spot on the head doesn't make it a Tancho Showa automatically. It could also be a Tancho Sanke which is what this one would have been with the red spot only on the forehead.

      Yes, Bekkos base color is white with black markings and a Shiro Utsuri is a black fish with white markings, just the opposite.
      Thanks for teaching, I didn't know that.

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      Quote Originally Posted by cindy View Post
      Thanks for teaching, I didn't know that.
      same

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      Looks like a low quality Bekko
      people like to vehemently defend their purchases and find it incredulous that anything could be better

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      Here we are at just over 12inches, maybe 13 inches, didnt get an exact measurement. Its been a warm winter up until just a few days ago so i just stopped feeding less than a week ago.

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