• Amused
  • Angry
  • Annoyed
  • Awesome
  • Bemused
  • Cocky
  • Cool
  • Crazy
  • Crying
  • Depressed
  • Down
  • Drunk
  • Embarrased
  • Enraged
  • Friendly
  • Geeky
  • Godly
  • Happy
  • Hateful
  • Hungry
  • Innocent
  • Meh
  • Piratey
  • Poorly
  • Sad
  • Secret
  • Shy
  • Sneaky
  • Tired
  • Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
    Results 21 to 26 of 26

    Thread: Lower PH with Baking Soda - how?

    1. #21
      CHICHI's Avatar
      CHICHI is offline Senior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Apr 2008
      Location
      UK
      Posts
      6,717
      Quote Originally Posted by Steve Nguyen View Post
      I am am so tempted to setup a water softener for this pond. I think it's the way to grow fish here since hard water is line 20 ppm here.

      Steve
      What about R/O ?

      • Remove Ads
        Advertising from Google
        Promoting Koi and Pond
        keeping since 2007

         

    2. #22
      Steve Nguyen's Avatar
      Steve Nguyen is offline Senior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Feb 2008
      Location
      San Jose, California
      Posts
      1,226
      prolly don't need R/O. salt level would be too marginal to be concerned.

      Steve

    3. #23
      CHICHI's Avatar
      CHICHI is offline Senior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Apr 2008
      Location
      UK
      Posts
      6,717
      Quote Originally Posted by Steve Nguyen View Post
      prolly don't need R/O. salt level would be too marginal to be concerned.

      Steve
      Water Softeners tend to remove all the GH ? and I personally would want to retain a Modicum of this such as 2 dH points minimum

    4. #24
      six6guy's Avatar
      six6guy is offline Bumbles Well
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Feb 2007
      Location
      Reseda, CA
      Posts
      7,874
      Quote Originally Posted by CHICHI View Post
      Water Softeners tend to remove all the GH ? and I personally would want to retain a Modicum of this such as 2 dH points minimum
      ummm... yes and no. Ion exchange water softeners are rated at so many grains. I think a 10 grain rating is a bigger residential unit. Anyway, if your source water is higher than that then the product water will be lowered, but not zero.

      There are a few Koi people who run a water softener and mix the product water with source water. The few people I know of, who I trust they know what they are doing, seem to swear by it. Fortunately my source water isn't that hard that I feel I have to do this.

      Brad










      "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
      Albert Einstein

      Bradley W. Olin
      newest member of EIHIOICGI





      My pond stuff can be found at...

      My Pond Build
      My QT Build
      My CC-FF Build
      My Active Carbon Filters

    5. #25
      CHICHI's Avatar
      CHICHI is offline Senior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Apr 2008
      Location
      UK
      Posts
      6,717
      We Don`t run Water Softeners over here with regard our Koi Ponds preferring instead R/O because along with the high GH value there tends to occur a high KH value also simultaeneously with the Goal being to lower TDS Per Se and not just one constituent of this ..

      Bob runs zero GH with his Water Softener and was the example I was referring to

    6. #26
      camoangelkris is offline Junior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Jun 2015
      Location
      Lapeer, MI
      Posts
      1

      Unhappy PH Trouble -

      Quote Originally Posted by Roddy Conrad View Post
      When there is a strong algae bloom, the pH has a significant variation with time of day, since plants produce acid at night and consume acid in the daylight hours. So if there is an algae bloom, the pH will maximize at sunset and minimize at sunrise. In my own ponds, when I had a green algae bloom (before UV lights and trickle tower filters!), the pH would dependably be 5 at sunrise and 10.5 to 11 at sunset. When this occurs, massive addition of baking soda can sometimes reduce the pH bounce somewhat, but not eliminate it.

      So if you have a significant algae issue, you must first measure five things before making any decision about pH control:

      1. pH near sunrise
      2. pH near sunset
      3. KH or total alkalinity at sunrise
      4. KH or total alkalinity at sunset
      5. GH at sunset

      If total alkalinity is below 100 ppm (morning and evening) and pH is dependably high (morning and evening), first add one pound of baking soda per 1000 gallons, wait a day, then add one pound of calcium chloride flake per 1000 gallons. This should stabilize pH near 8.3 in the absence of a bad algae bloom.

      If there is a bad green water algae bloom, then installing sufficient UV light capacity should solve the green water algae bloom and the pH bounce.

      If there is a bad string algae bloom (frequently the case in Spring ponding, particularly in May), add sufficient hydrogen peroxide to bring the string algae under control and the pH bounce will stop.

      My koi pond is only a month and a half old and my ph is 8.2 almost all the time. My water is clear coming off the waterfalls, but green to just look into the pond. You can't see the bottom of the pond or the fish, but if I get in the pond there is no algae, just looks green....how do I lower the ph and what about this green look to the water that is in the pond? I've been adding bacteria and aquafix for a month now and nothing has changed? I'm so frustrated....

      • Remove Ads
        Advertising from Google
        Promoting Koi and Pond
        keeping since 2007

         

    Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •