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    Thread: 2009 project on Kohaku breeding.

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      Quote Originally Posted by rainblood View Post


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      Ah, to feed a lot of food in the heated warm water of a relatively "Poor water quality" is a best combination to see a true potential of beni/hi plates, whether beni remain or not, for the future of fish.....

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      I guess it is! Very interesting indeed.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Super Kindai View Post
      Ah, to feed a lot of food in the heated warm water of a relatively "Poor water quality" is a best combination to see a true potential of beni/hi plates, whether beni remain or not, for the future of fish.....
      SK This Query has recently emerged over here ?

      We Know That High PH (re Roddy) along with my own experiences ruins Koi Colouration

      In Your Experience How Big A Role Does "Temp" Play Too .. ? I was always led to believe 20-26C is Superb a Temp For Koi ..?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn View Post
      I guess it is! Very interesting indeed.
      Many, many tosai of tategoi candidate are turning to white fish in breeders' highly heated ponds during winter....

      Contrarily, to keep a group of nice patterned but slightly lower beni quality koi in lower temp (lower than 18C) and then feed only color food in order to strengthen the basis of beni/hi plates is a popular handling and feeding techniques....

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      Quote Originally Posted by CHICHI View Post
      SK This Query has recently emerged over here ?

      We Know That High PH (re Roddy) along with my own experiences ruins Koi Colouration

      In Your Experience How Big A Role Does "Temp" Play Too .. ? I was always led to believe 20-26C is Superb a Temp For Koi ..?
      CHIHCI, it is said (in Japan) that higher PH cause thinner hi plates and decrease luster but red color tends to finishing/complete relatively faster, while very low PH break hi plates away easily which was observed by laboratory tests.

      I think temp play a lot..... as far as I know, 24-25 C is known as best temp among the good range of 20-26C or so. Interestingly, tosai are lively in higher temp even 30C+, while matured koi prefer to a slightly lower temp around 22-24C....

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      Junichi-san, what do you call the water plant in your original photo's. I think this is a great idea to include this plant during a spawn, for fry and protect the large koi.
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      Quote Originally Posted by farne230 View Post
      Junichi-san, what do you call the water plant in your original photo's. I think this is a great idea to include this plant during a spawn, for fry and protect the large koi.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Super Kindai View Post
      Many, many tosai of tategoi candidate are turning to white fish in breeders' highly heated ponds during winter....

      Contrarily, to keep a group of nice patterned but slightly lower beni quality koi in lower temp (lower than 18C) and then feed only color food in order to strengthen the basis of beni/hi plates is a popular handling and feeding techniques....
      Thank you Junichi, since I am not trying to push rapidly to jumbo I welcome the cooler temps to give the koi a chance to consolidate the beni.
      I don't expect I will be pushing them past what they can handle genetically. Steady growth has been working for me.
      I still have a lot to learn and figuring out the "speed limits" on beni is out of my league.
      Last edited by Marilyn; 01-16-2010 at 01:17 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Super Kindai View Post
      They are about 10-11" as of today.

      Here are some update.....()

      1 kohaku (female)

      2 Kakono (male & female)

      they are not kanoko they are going to be shiro muji, its a shame but it happens, a kanoko would be a stable dappled hi, thats not what yours have, the one that hasnt lost its beni looks good though...

      i've kept koi in fish tanks and heated vats, and have never had a koi lose its colour, you need to make sure the water is clean (good filtration and water changes) also offer a good mix of high quality foods, and lots of air, sunlight and algae also make a big difference
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      What's the blue stuff the koi bred in?

      Looks like mesh.
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      Any updates in fish? Are they pushing 20 inches yet?
      This is crown sanke from Nakata koi farm. The winner of the 1978 All Japan Grand Championship. My super favorite fish of the season!!


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      Does anybody know why Super Kindai does not post here any more?
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      Quote Originally Posted by GloriaL View Post
      Does anybody know why Super Kindai does not post here any more?
      I believe JR made that stipulation when SK became a judge. He has been posting at koi bito since his judgeship.

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      Just saw Junichisan today and had a great talk about how to improve fish in general. Great and wise man and a great educator. He lives very near me and I wish I could visit with him more often. I believe, from what I have heard, Junichi has not been asked to stop posting but rather to not critique fish. He saw my post here in which I asked for my Sanke to be critiqued, he did not reply, but we had a very interesting talk about that fish today. We were at Andrew's Koi in Anaheim, Ca. The ZNA club was having a fish auction. Both of us belong to that ZNA club.




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      Well next time you see him Barbara, ask if he'll update his breeding and teaching threads I think I speak for alot of us when I say he is missed here.
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