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    Ideas for a non-permanent pond?

    Hi, I'd like to build a pond for my turtle but I may move in the next few years so I do not want to build a full on pond yet. Any ideas for a non-permanent pond? I'm thinking along the lines of half-burying a large Titan tub or just using it above-ground.

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    Stock tank - come in many sizes up to 1000 gal. My poly. stock tank -1000 gallons was less than $300. Or preform pond, I think you can get more gal for your buck with a stock tank and the poly(plastic) ones won't rust as the galvanized sometimes do.
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    What type of water habitat does your paticualr turtle species need?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpageler View Post
    What type of water habitat does your paticualr turtle species need?
    It's a Red Ear Slider, so essentially a typical pond environment. It needs sunbathing areas but that can be easily accomplished with floating islands.

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    A preform would work...http://www.azponds.com/Ornamental_Pond_Liners.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by foogoo View Post
    It's a Red Ear Slider, so essentially a typical pond environment. It needs sunbathing areas but that can be easily accomplished with floating islands.
    Does it need much depth of water or would it like a decent amount of water surface area but not a lot of depth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpageler View Post
    Does it need much depth of water or would it like a decent amount of water surface area but not a lot of depth.
    As with any pond, ideally both .I guess surface area will give it more room to explore, but it needs some depth to keep the temperature stable as well.

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    RES can CLIMB so the floating island idea is good, but I'd worry about the island getting to close to the edge and turtle climbing out.

    I'd put a heater in there to help keep temps stable unless you are worrying about to hot..then a shade something or other to help keep it cool

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    another idea is to use the landscape blocks and a liner. Making sure there is a good 2 blocks of height above the surface of the pond. Easy to dismantle and should look pretty good. Then you could even bury a foot or so under ground to help with stable temps, even put in a bottom drain to aid with cleaning..they are dirty little buggers. Will have to do the same for my RES this summer..I just worry where I will put him next winter as his 35 gallon tank is beginning to look a bit small...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowiche Ponder View Post
    RES can CLIMB so the floating island idea is good, but I'd worry about the island getting to close to the edge and turtle climbing out.

    I'd put a heater in there to help keep temps stable unless you are worrying about to hot..then a shade something or other to help keep it cool
    No worries, I've already thought of that. The waterline will be far from the top if I use a tub or I'll fence it off if I use a preformed pond.

    I'm more concerned with figuring out a design that will be cheap enough that I can move/dispose of it if I do end up relocating in a few years without being out tons of $$$ .

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    Would something like this work. Cattle water trough with one pump feeding Sand/gravel filter. You could run the water level a little lower so the turtle can't escape.
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    That's the same idea I had with the stock tank/Titan bin but I never knew those were used as cattle troughs - seems to have more variety of sizes available. And I assume the plastic won't leech and is fish/turtle safe?

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    Howsabout this for cheap. Dig a hole large enough for the turtle to have comfy diving depth, say two shell lengths deep if its a foot long shell

    Dig a bed of gravel below where the pond is, fit a bottom drain to just pull the plug on erm, debris into the sump...

    Lay 6ml plastic for the pond, keep turtles toe nails blunt by having slabs of concrete about to file its nails

    Let the bottom drain dispose of waste water when the water needs changing.

    Enclose the turtles pond and land area with 6" metal rebar grid (guessing at its shell size) easy enough to support a shade material through excess heat

    An alternative enclosure might be made by the tough fabric used on construction sites as a wildlife barrier, topped by net to stop climbing

    (Might protect turtle from prowling predators)

    Pull the lot up roll or pack flat, fill in the hole, set it up quick at the next location

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    Andrew if we are going to roll it up and take it with..why not use liner rather than 6mil? Seems turtle could still get it's claws through that. I love the general idea!

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    6 mil plastic might be functional for a cheaper expendable option, fairly easy to do a double layer, puncture repairs if and when needed.

    20 ml might cope with the big hind claws of a heavy turtle. Providing concrete surfaces where the turtle spends its time loafing would help to take the sharp edge off the claws, reducing wear and tear

    Where a big turtle does some damage is from the hind claws, where they are in deeper water and the big claws are used to hook onto anything to take their weight and they lever themselves up and down. Thats a fair bit of force at a guess up to ten pounds being put on sharp pointy objects

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    Just my .02
    Well my though was to use landscape timbers for the sides to stop crawl out and then use a baby swimming pool for the water area. Put drain in bottom to change water. then put walk way blocks around the pool area to keep them from digging out. Run these up to the timbers.
    Could bury the pool if U wanted. or use block/steps to give them access to the water.
    Shade could be attached to the landscape timbers very easily. And still allow to view. then in the pool have a large limb for them to climb on and to help get out of the pool.

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