• Amused
  • Angry
  • Annoyed
  • Awesome
  • Bemused
  • Cocky
  • Cool
  • Crazy
  • Crying
  • Depressed
  • Down
  • Drunk
  • Embarrased
  • Enraged
  • Friendly
  • Geeky
  • Godly
  • Happy
  • Hateful
  • Hungry
  • Innocent
  • Meh
  • Piratey
  • Poorly
  • Sad
  • Secret
  • Shy
  • Sneaky
  • Tired
  • Results 1 to 16 of 16

    Thread: Ideas for a non-permanent pond?

    1. #1
      foogoo is offline Junior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Feb 2009
      Location
      Southern California
      Posts
      5

      Ideas for a non-permanent pond?

      Hi, I'd like to build a pond for my turtle but I may move in the next few years so I do not want to build a full on pond yet. Any ideas for a non-permanent pond? I'm thinking along the lines of half-burying a large Titan tub or just using it above-ground.

    2. #2
      IMSALSMOM's Avatar
      IMSALSMOM is offline Senior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      May 2007
      Location
      ST PETERSBURG, FL
      Posts
      4,947
      Stock tank - come in many sizes up to 1000 gal. My poly. stock tank -1000 gallons was less than $300. Or preform pond, I think you can get more gal for your buck with a stock tank and the poly(plastic) ones won't rust as the galvanized sometimes do.
      http://www.behlencountry.com/products/poly_stock_tanks
      Last edited by IMSALSMOM; 02-26-2009 at 03:07 PM.
      Dale Ann
      American and British Troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan
      Drunks are always victims, in their own minds. -- Law and Order



      Click for Saint Petersburg, Florida Forecast

    3. #3
      mpageler's Avatar
      mpageler is offline Senior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Feb 2005
      Location
      Woodbury Minnesota
      Posts
      3,572
      What type of water habitat does your paticualr turtle species need?
      MN Mike

      5400g 10'x14'x 5
      Dry Stacked Block Walls - Drop-in Liner
      4" BD - Cetus Seive - DIY Skimmer
      125g MB w/8ft2 Biollow9
      Converted Trition II Sand Filter

      My Pond Construction
      My QT Tank
      My Indoor Overwintering Tank
      Calculating K1 Bio Media


    4. #4
      foogoo is offline Junior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Feb 2009
      Location
      Southern California
      Posts
      5
      Quote Originally Posted by mpageler View Post
      What type of water habitat does your paticualr turtle species need?
      It's a Red Ear Slider, so essentially a typical pond environment. It needs sunbathing areas but that can be easily accomplished with floating islands.

    5. #5
      Luck's Avatar
      Luck is offline Samurai
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Jan 2007
      Location
      Vancouver, WA
      Posts
      6,516
      A preform would work...http://www.azponds.com/Ornamental_Pond_Liners.htm
      These are flexible liners that are preformed.
      Watch your thoughts; they become words.
      Watch your words; they become actions.
      Watch your actions; they become habits.
      Watch your habits; they become character.
      Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.

      Dustin

    6. #6
      mpageler's Avatar
      mpageler is offline Senior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Feb 2005
      Location
      Woodbury Minnesota
      Posts
      3,572
      Quote Originally Posted by foogoo View Post
      It's a Red Ear Slider, so essentially a typical pond environment. It needs sunbathing areas but that can be easily accomplished with floating islands.
      Does it need much depth of water or would it like a decent amount of water surface area but not a lot of depth.
      MN Mike

      5400g 10'x14'x 5
      Dry Stacked Block Walls - Drop-in Liner
      4" BD - Cetus Seive - DIY Skimmer
      125g MB w/8ft2 Biollow9
      Converted Trition II Sand Filter

      My Pond Construction
      My QT Tank
      My Indoor Overwintering Tank
      Calculating K1 Bio Media


    7. #7
      foogoo is offline Junior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Feb 2009
      Location
      Southern California
      Posts
      5
      Quote Originally Posted by mpageler View Post
      Does it need much depth of water or would it like a decent amount of water surface area but not a lot of depth.
      As with any pond, ideally both .I guess surface area will give it more room to explore, but it needs some depth to keep the temperature stable as well.

    8. #8
      Cowiche Ponder's Avatar
      Cowiche Ponder is offline Living my life's dream
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Aug 2004
      Location
      Cowiche, WA
      Posts
      20,809
      RES can CLIMB so the floating island idea is good, but I'd worry about the island getting to close to the edge and turtle climbing out.

      I'd put a heater in there to help keep temps stable unless you are worrying about to hot..then a shade something or other to help keep it cool

    9. #9
      Cowiche Ponder's Avatar
      Cowiche Ponder is offline Living my life's dream
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Aug 2004
      Location
      Cowiche, WA
      Posts
      20,809
      another idea is to use the landscape blocks and a liner. Making sure there is a good 2 blocks of height above the surface of the pond. Easy to dismantle and should look pretty good. Then you could even bury a foot or so under ground to help with stable temps, even put in a bottom drain to aid with cleaning..they are dirty little buggers. Will have to do the same for my RES this summer..I just worry where I will put him next winter as his 35 gallon tank is beginning to look a bit small...

    10. #10
      foogoo is offline Junior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Feb 2009
      Location
      Southern California
      Posts
      5
      Quote Originally Posted by Cowiche Ponder View Post
      RES can CLIMB so the floating island idea is good, but I'd worry about the island getting to close to the edge and turtle climbing out.

      I'd put a heater in there to help keep temps stable unless you are worrying about to hot..then a shade something or other to help keep it cool
      No worries, I've already thought of that. The waterline will be far from the top if I use a tub or I'll fence it off if I use a preformed pond.

      I'm more concerned with figuring out a design that will be cheap enough that I can move/dispose of it if I do end up relocating in a few years without being out tons of $$$ .

    11. #11
      birdman's Avatar
      birdman is offline DIY Savant
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Jun 2005
      Location
      Palm Springs, CA.
      Posts
      21,975
      Would something like this work. Cattle water trough with one pump feeding Sand/gravel filter. You could run the water level a little lower so the turtle can't escape.
      Attached Images Attached Images  

    12. #12
      foogoo is offline Junior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Feb 2009
      Location
      Southern California
      Posts
      5
      That's the same idea I had with the stock tank/Titan bin but I never knew those were used as cattle troughs - seems to have more variety of sizes available. And I assume the plastic won't leech and is fish/turtle safe?

    13. #13
      andrew davis's Avatar
      andrew davis is offline Senior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Aug 2004
      Location
      North Carolina
      Posts
      5,409
      Howsabout this for cheap. Dig a hole large enough for the turtle to have comfy diving depth, say two shell lengths deep if its a foot long shell

      Dig a bed of gravel below where the pond is, fit a bottom drain to just pull the plug on erm, debris into the sump...

      Lay 6ml plastic for the pond, keep turtles toe nails blunt by having slabs of concrete about to file its nails

      Let the bottom drain dispose of waste water when the water needs changing.

      Enclose the turtles pond and land area with 6" metal rebar grid (guessing at its shell size) easy enough to support a shade material through excess heat

      An alternative enclosure might be made by the tough fabric used on construction sites as a wildlife barrier, topped by net to stop climbing

      (Might protect turtle from prowling predators)

      Pull the lot up roll or pack flat, fill in the hole, set it up quick at the next location

      Regards, andy
      http://www.flickr.com/photos/21940871@N06/
      http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/adavisus/

    14. #14
      Cowiche Ponder's Avatar
      Cowiche Ponder is offline Living my life's dream
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Aug 2004
      Location
      Cowiche, WA
      Posts
      20,809
      Andrew if we are going to roll it up and take it with..why not use liner rather than 6mil? Seems turtle could still get it's claws through that. I love the general idea!

    15. #15
      andrew davis's Avatar
      andrew davis is offline Senior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Aug 2004
      Location
      North Carolina
      Posts
      5,409
      6 mil plastic might be functional for a cheaper expendable option, fairly easy to do a double layer, puncture repairs if and when needed.

      20 ml might cope with the big hind claws of a heavy turtle. Providing concrete surfaces where the turtle spends its time loafing would help to take the sharp edge off the claws, reducing wear and tear

      Where a big turtle does some damage is from the hind claws, where they are in deeper water and the big claws are used to hook onto anything to take their weight and they lever themselves up and down. Thats a fair bit of force at a guess up to ten pounds being put on sharp pointy objects

      regards, andy
      http://www.flickr.com/photos/21940871@N06/
      http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/adavisus/

    16. #16
      ceejay4801 is offline Senior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Nov 2008
      Location
      Kingsport TN
      Posts
      154
      Just my .02
      Well my though was to use landscape timbers for the sides to stop crawl out and then use a baby swimming pool for the water area. Put drain in bottom to change water. then put walk way blocks around the pool area to keep them from digging out. Run these up to the timbers.
      Could bury the pool if U wanted. or use block/steps to give them access to the water.
      Shade could be attached to the landscape timbers very easily. And still allow to view. then in the pool have a large limb for them to climb on and to help get out of the pool.

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •