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    Thread: Ponderingkoi's SU growout

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      Ponderingkoi's SU growout

      I bowled my SU today, 10-15-08 cuz I'm not sure if I'll get a chance to do it again in two weeks. Water temps been in the 50's for over a week, so I doubt they're eating much anymore. Here's before and today pics. It's hard to get a pic. with her lined up and straight against the ruler markings but it looks like "she's" just breaking 16". She wasn't too happy about being singled out. The sumi is fading in my soft water, may harden it up next summer to see if it'll come back.
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      Wow... nice conformation.
      The sumi will be back and she's going to be stunning.

      What was her starting length?

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      I think she was around 6-7" inches, not sure. I didn't measure her starting out. I should get myself a nice blue bowl...lol!
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      Excellent growth, and she does have a nice shape.
      click on this thumbnail to see more pictures

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      Wow 16" that is amazing growth .

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      We have a winner
      Happy Koiing!!! Water and nothing but water or filtration????

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      Quote Originally Posted by koitoo View Post
      We have a winner
      I'm sure there are a lot of koi out there yet to be bowled, and probably still chowing down for another two weeks....lol!
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      I'll catch her again this next week and see if I can get some better pics...with a makeshift 'better blue' background, and with some side profile shots against a tape measure. It's tough with the wind and leaves blowing. I have to get a calm day to pull the net off and drain down the pond in order to catch her. Then the greenhouse goes up and access will be too difficult.
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      I thought I responded to this yesterday

      Paula you did great and I'm hoping that 16" is not the norm so on the growth.

      Don't worry to much about the sumi yet, get the shiro thick and pure as milk then let that black out with a lacquer finish.

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      Thanks Rudy. I'm not worried about the sumi. I sure would like to see the black come in next summer, so I may harden up the water some. Everyone else's SU's look so awesome with that distinct sumi. I can't take much credit for it's growth either... as they fed themselves for the most part. With the flooded pond and then my pump down for a week, I'm surprised they all hung in there so well. That water is 49 degrees today and we're heading into the 20's tonight...cold for us, with a strong wind. I worry a little about stressing them in this cold water/weather. I've got to get my greenhouse up this week. So final pics and measurements will get done this week.
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      I bowled my SU again today (in 50 degree water & running a 102 temp. ) to get a better measurement against the side. She is 15 inches with a lot of girth. Here are some pics just taken...
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      Paula now that it is colder do you see the sumi tighten up ?
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      Usually I see the sumi fade more in the cold water...at least on my shusui that seems like the case. I think there's some shrinkage going on in this cold water...lol! I had thought she looked like she was just breaking 16" a couple weeks ago. The overhead shots can be a little deceiving. This one has really bulked up though in girth esp.
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      paula .. in shiros particularly tosai when they are growing in the warmer months the sumi will lighten and then will darken when the growth rates slow down in the fall . as they grow older since the growth lessens it will not happen that sharply . sushui are different to Shiros I think.
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      Quote Originally Posted by a14455 View Post
      paula .. in shiros particularly tosai when they are growing in the warmer months the sumi will lighten and then will darken when the growth rates slow down in the fall . as they grow older since the growth lessens it will not happen that sharply . sushui are different to Shiros I think.
      I hope you are right. I have very soft water, but may harden it next summer to see if the sumi will come back. I love the distinct look of everyone's shiros. So stunning. My koi seem to grow even in the winter. Not sure how, cuz they get no food from mid-Oct. till mid. April. It'll be interesting to see if it comes back over the winter.
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      it should .
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      Paula, the Shiroji looks excellent, the sumi should come up next year.


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      Hey Matt! She turns pink quickly when I bowl her. She a lot happier in the pond hanging out with the others. I'm looking forward to seeing how this fish develops next year. She's heading into her first NY winter.
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      Holy #$$%! Did you see that forecast?! They are talking FEET of snow just to the north of us. I think we're in for a long cold and snowy winter.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ponderingkoi View Post
      Holy #$$%! Did you see that forecast?! They are talking FEET of snow just to the north of us. I think we're in for a long cold and snowy winter.
      what did u say snow ... thank goodness I am going to Cali .. will post sum pics to make you all feel bad
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